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New New Labour
25 Jul 2024

@Steve , You've taken it personally, that's a shame. You're not the arbiter of truth either and you've not explained why anthropogenic climate change science is flawed, in any case you admit you know nothing about it. I didn't ask for your life story, I simply asked you to provide some details concerning your background so anyone reading this could decide whether your scepticism had any ...

25 Jul 2024

@Steve , I don't disagree with much of what you've written, people are poorer because of austerity, there's no 'may be' about it. I don't think you do understand natural phenomena antmore than you understand climate science or scientic enquiry in general. It is a discussion and debate page, but seeing as you don't answer or side-step many of my questions it';s just going around in circles. I ...

24 Jul 2024

@Steve , you either lack a sense of humour, cannot follow a thread or are just prone to misunderstanding. Or you just twist it to your supposed benefit to save face or avoid actual discussion. I'm not saying the moon landings were staged. I'm referring to it to highlight your lack of trust in anything climate change related that attributes it to human activity. I asked if you thought indigenous ...

23 Jul 2024

It's your belief, it's factual to say that the climate has changed throughout history, but that's not what we're discussing. Anthropogenic climate change, means human caused; why is that so abstract for some people or are they just in denial? Humans have had other effects that have impacted the planet from plastics in every square km of the oceans to mass deforestation and pollution, all of which ...

23 Jul 2024

@Steve Well that's your belief, and that's all it is a belief. Considering the majority or governments, businesses and the public around the globe accept the science on anthropogenic climate change, I'd suggest you arre in the minority. Either way if you feel so strongly, why don't you do something about it? Most economists don't understand that environmental sustainability is not possible ...

22 Jul 2024

@Steve I was just pointing out you're in the minority. It's up to you what you trust or not. But if you come on discussion forums questioning climate science I assume you're looking to discuss it. So you don't trust the global scientific community on anthropogenic climate change. Do you trust the scientific and medical fields on their cancer research? I mentioned global conspiracy in ...

22 Jul 2024

"Facts are not determined by consensus. Ideology and politics are." I never said they were. If you don't trust climate science do you trust any science at all? "Saying the climate has been changing since the dawn of time is not a conspiracy." I never said anything to this effect, you're misinterpreting. "You can’t deal with corruption in politics because it is human nature. You can ...

22 Jul 2024

@Steve There's a consensus on anthropogenic climate change being fact. The rate of change is unprecedented - 200 years worth of industrialization and burning fossil fuels is having an impact. Your voice is in the minority as is those of a few others on here who believe in some global conspiracy. And why should anyone take you seriously? what's your background? What do you do for a living? Are we ...

22 Jul 2024

@Steve Why would owners of detached houses and bungalows with large rooftops get a subsidy? That's not what I'm suggesting at all, in fact it'sd better if not approcahed from the perspective of individual private homeowners, but rather from a community perspective and their collective needs. And I agree with you about subsidies going to those who can afford it, landlords, etc, many of whom are ...

21 Jul 2024

@Steve I see what you mean on subsidizing. But ss everyone meant to have what? Solar panels? Not everyone has a suitable rooftop aspect, so looking at it from the individual homeowner perspective means roll-out would be limited, plus not everyone would be able to invest heavily up front even if the tech resulted in lowered bills in the long-term. Anyway I'm approaching this from a climate change ...