I heard both of those words on TV last night.
And that has been my argument how can 400 MP's know better than 17,460,217 people who voted to leave.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36616028 Scapegoat this may be of interest to you the folk who voted to leave are far from elitists.
Maybe the conversation went something like " The cost for that section could be £61 million to £80 million depending on weather etc,etc."
And the same to you majorp
My best wishes to you Lynne i hope you are back to full health soon.