@1263 What point are you trying to make about the MOBO awards? How are you comparing that to what Anne-Marie Morris said? Non racists don't make 'slips of the tongue' that happen to be racist, as they tend not to use racist language in everyday speech. They're more self-aware and respectful of others. The fact she said those words in public office speaks volumes about her upbringing, ...
@1263 I wasn't branding everyone a racist. I was referring to Anne-Marie Morris. I didn't know you were such an admirer of Morris. Do you see her a champion of free speech? Do you think her 'n*****r in the woodpile' comment in a parliamentary debate was simply an acceptable and different viewpoint? I just don't think it's newsworthy. Morris joins Reform, so what? It's probably where she ...
Racist joins racist party... Wrigley will be worried if the Tories and Reform form an electoral pact. If not he may benefit from the right being split again in 4 years. It also depends if Labour and the Lib Dems form their own unofficial pact again and he benefits from tactical voters. I'd hope people vote tactically to oust him in 4 years time given he's just in it for himself. Actually ...
@b.o.liking Can you expand on that. What do you take issue with about the Chagos deal? Do you think it should be decolonized? Do you think Chagossians living in Mauritius, Seychelles and W. Sussex should be allowed to return to their homeland? Closer links with neighbouring countries in the EU in itself isn't illegal. Could you be more specific?
@b.o.liking Could you be more specific? Which deals in particular?
@Paul I wasn't debating right and wrong. Animal welfare is secondary to profit, whether animals are bred for food or for sports. Livestock farming also has a negative environmental impact. Growth hormones and anti-biotics, coupled with cases of contamination where meats are basically marinated in faecal matter post slaughter means the welfare of those eating these 'animal products' isn't a ...
Seems like many millions to make commodities' lives slightly less sh1t than they already are before they're murdered.
@Paul Did the Conservative government do anything about cruelty to animals in farming? No. Where was your animal rights activism then? Or have you become one since Labour got into power? Labour won't do anything about it. Farm animals are simply seen as commodities, in other words 'live stock' and the entire industry is based on cruelty and exploitation. The removal of crates and cages ...
@Steve Wow! Where did that come from?
@Steve I agree there is no defence for what is ritualistic cruelty. But what's the defence for non ritualized cruelty in the day to day farming of animals? Is cruelty okay as long as it isn't ritualized? @1263 There's nothing over the top about it, it is based on what I've read on various threads from these two contributors. I did not launch into anything, I simply do not believe that ...