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Should wrigley be worried.?

Discuss......

Reform supporters probably are.

Racist joins racist party...

Wrigley will be worried if the Tories and Reform form an electoral pact. If not he may benefit from the right being split again in 4 years. It also depends if Labour and the Lib Dems form their own unofficial pact again and he benefits from tactical voters.

I'd hope people vote tactically to oust him in 4 years time given he's just in it for himself.

Actually I hope we have proportional representation but that all seems talk and no action.

@dac

Your headline  "Racist joins Racist Party "  sadly falls into the usual claptrap about branding eveyone who has different views as racist. This is a tired old cliche  used by opponents of free speech to try and gag/smear people with differing views.

Its really not worthy of you.

@1263 I wasn't branding everyone a racist. I was referring to Anne-Marie Morris. 

I didn't know you were such an admirer of Morris. Do you see her a champion of free speech?

Do you think her 'n*****r in the woodpile' comment in a parliamentary debate was simply an acceptable and different viewpoint? 

I just don't think it's newsworthy. Morris joins Reform, so what? It's probably where she belongs and it does nothing for Reform's image.

In any case why would Wrigley be worried? She has been brought in to help develop Reform’s social care policy.  It hasn't been reported that she'll stand for parliament again in this constituency at the next general election. If anything her being in the public eye benefits the Wriggler.

No i dont think AMM is racist but then again this is just the current woke culture and virtue signalling of this age. She apologised and was suspended _ end of story. She make a slip of the tongue but so glad every other human never does that. You would probably not remember that a group captain in the RAF had a black dog called the n word. In this day and age he would have been removed, but the public didnt give a toss about that as we were in the middle of a war. American black people can call there people the  n word without any issues. There is a MOBO award ceremony which is only open to black artists so to try call out someone as racist by vitue of a slip of the tongue is stricity ludicrous. The local lib dem councillor who threatened violence to another councillor us still serving ..says it all.

The tories are finished as more of their voters will go to reform

@1263 What point are you trying to make about the MOBO awards? How are you comparing that to what Anne-Marie Morris said?

Non racists don't make 'slips of the tongue' that happen to be racist, as they tend not to use racist language in everyday speech. They're more self-aware and respectful of others.

The fact she said those words in public office speaks volumes about her upbringing, attitude, values and how she views black people.

So you think dog owners should be able to call their dogs by the n word in 2025 do you? 

I have written about Lib Dem Cllr Gary Taylor and his violent misconduct before, he should've been removed. He didn't threaten violence helaid his hands on the other Councillor, forcibly trying to remove them  for the Council meeting. Get your facts straight. How does this relate to racism?

Reform is just the Tory party V.2.

My direction is do you think MOBO awards are racist ad they exclude whites? so to compare something like that to a slip of the tongue by AMM is minimal. You probally think enoch powell was a racist bur the question should be was/is he correct in his statements.

Dog owners should call dogs what they want and i do find it funny when your handle is dawlish against censorship which is a total misnomer

Laid his hands on him ....sorry but thats assault but lets split hairs and not call it violent conduct to keep you happy.

@1263 have you ever considered that the MOBO awards came to be because black musicians were not sufficiently recognized in mainstream society, whereas white people don't face the same problem. There's nothing racist about having a music award specifically for black artists. 

Enoch Powell was a racist. What do you think then? Was Powell correct in his statements.

So you don't think someone naming their dog the n word in 2025 would cause any offence to anyone? Just imagine someone walking their dog on the lawn calling to it by the n word, as a family of Afro Caribbean tourists were having a stroll. It's not about censorship, it's about empathy and acceptance of others. Something you seem unable to grasp, but then you'd probably believe racism is some left-wing ploy or fabrication to subdue the masses and thre's no such thing as a 'racist'. 

You're as much a champion of free speech as MP Martin Wrigley is a 'Champion of the People'.

You wrote that Taylor threatened violence. that's incorrect. He actually laid hands on the opposition Councillor and forcibly attempted to remove him from the meeting. He committed assault. He didn't threaten it, he carried it out. get your facts straight and admit when you don't know what you're banging on about. It's not splitting hairs. It's on You Tube, go and watch the video.

" Theres nothing racist about having a black only award ceremony" do you actually review the rubbish you write?

By todays standards enoch powell would be considered a racist but again you havent answered my question  about do you think he was right but instead have answered a question with a questiob.

Perhaps your too afraid you will have a " slip of the tongue "and if you say yes and you will be branded  a racist. Like most woke people you are afraid to have to say the courage of your convictions in case to have you offend people even if the answer is not too thier liking.

I do not think people would call their dog the n word but merely have the power to call it whatever they want and of course you dive in with your hypothetical afro-caribean theory.

I never consider myself a champion of free speech but not afraid to say what i think even if it offends people like you who hide behind woke labels and are desperate to be offended by anyhing other than your views.

Why is the MOBO award racist? Who is it causing any offence to?

Enoch Powell was a racist back in the 1960. Of course he wasn't right. Where are the rivers of blood? I would write 'Stop spreading alarmism and hatred' but that's born of fear and ignorance.

If you're not afraid of offending people why are you writing the 'n-word' instead of '*n****r'?. 

And you really are dense. This is not a discussion about a person's right to name their dog whatever they choose. You mentioned the WW2 captain who had a dog named the n word - that was the 1940. I asked whether you think a decent human being would call their dog the n word in 2025. We weren't discussing whether they call their dog Rover or  Fido. Get with it.

And it's not a Afro-Carribean theory, yes it's a hypothetical question.If you had a dog called the n word and you took it for a walk on the lawn would you call it by its name as an Afro-Carribean family strolled by?

Only an ignorant racist would call a dog that name and only a brazen on who was intent on causing harm, upset and offence would call their dog by that name amongst black people, Hopefully sickos like that don't live in Dawlish.

Rivers of blood wasnt meant to be taken literally  but your eyes are blind to whats happening in this county mass immigration amongst them  rapists, murderers, foreign country spys and other criminal elememts not to mention grooming gangs. I would go on but you are more concerned about  dog names and racists that have slip of the tongues  that you fail or (dont want to see) the big picture.

Please advise where there is a whites only award film and music ceremony , and so if i was to take the woke route and say gosh i am so offended  about that but sorry wokeists i live in the real world and get on with life so if i offend or am offended  tough titty.(or is that offensive to say that )

@1263 'tough titty? Not offensive, pretty childish though. How old are you? There are  issues in some parts of the country, same as any other country where 'bloody' immigrants are stealing all our jobs' etc, etc, etc. Jobs that we don't want to do ourselves btw.  Jobs in British companies where white British CEOs are doing very well financially.

I suppose you think white British people have never done any raping, murdering, spying or grooming in other lands throughout the imperial  period. I suppose you think the British never committed any crimes or any genocide and simply brought civilization to the savage hordes and so on...

No doubt this country is facing issues but it's not all down to immigration. The likes of you sowing the seeds of further division isn't the answer.

Are there many illegal immigrants raping, murdering, spying and grooming kids here in S. Devon? Or is your anxiety level escalated because of the right wing media machine? You react exactly as the media and the establishment want you to react. It suits their divide and rule policy. Farage won't  change anything, the system as it is needs an 'other' to prevent people realizing that the system is the against the people.

You don't even know what 'woke' means or  were the word originated. I've never mentioned it, nor am I hiding behind it or any other label. It just suits your lame attempt to label me, because you come on this site looking for conflict. 

Oh no !!  not another colonial britain hater who thinks we were always the bad guys in the world.

Ok so as long as theres no murderers etc  in south devon we are immune from whats happening in the rest of the country. Well thanks for that as i can now get a good  nights sleep safe in the knowlege that bad people wont cross the county boundary.

@1263 and you think the empire was all rosey for everyone then? 

Are all the news stories about Rochdale and Rotherham  giving you a restless night? Why? From what I've read  on your posts you don't seem to like other human beings very much. less so those who might enjoy jazz or ambiental music and definitely not any woke' humans!. So why would you care what happens up north? I'd have thought you'd dislike Northerners too. You dislike so much about humanity and life in general. How long do you have left to live do you think? If you can remember a WW2 Captain with his dog called the n word then I'd imagine you'll be relieved when its all over.

Up north ..is that somerset?

Rochdale and Rotherham. - sorry to old for that lot but thanks for asking.

I dont like  human beings ??? No answer to the most stupid comnent i have ever heard in my life.

Do i not like jazz and ambient music, No but obviously other prople will but dac cannot get his head around that.( possibly because its full of jazz and ambient music) 

Northerners - are we talking vikings, scots or people from Luton ?

Yes i dislike humanity and life in general so i am going to make my own album of stigma reducing and ambilent music, hell if you cant beat them join them.

Have not done a test to see how long i have to live but having to read your posts cant bring it on soon enough.

As per above probably wont be able to remember WW2 captain for much longer but with the upside i wont also remember the tripe you write.

@1263 haha interesting rant/ramble there.

Come on if you can remember a WW2 Captain that you must be of a ripe old age. Well done you for learning to use the internet though. 

You don't have to read my posts do you? You choose to do so. If reading my posts  were to bring   about your early demise and that means you'd no longer 'contribute' to Dawlish.com    then by all means carry on reading.  

Of course i dont have to read your posts but where else would i get such laughter, better than the comedies on tv. 

Used the internet for many years but credit to you for finally understanding what social media is. Now all you have to conqueor what AI is, and its not the abbreviation of someones name.

P.s  I said i remembered the WW2 story, obviously not there at the time but  i will share the knowlege with you where to find it. Its called a BOOK and you can find these items without using the internet in a bulding called a LIBRARY specifically history section, but no more clues or you wont go there.

@Dawlish Against Censorship - SNNNNOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEE. Off you soap box now lad, you are getting thoroughly boring. You have made your point.

@1263 Check your own post again. You wrote;

"You would probably not remember that a group captain in the RAF had a black dog called the n word."

I thought you meant remembering from back in WW2. 

Implying I wasn't old enough to remember, whilst I assumed you were. I thought you weren't just old. but really old, from a bygone age.

It wasn't obvious that you weren't there at the time. Why would it be?

Ah, so you meant a story that you had read at some point. I'm impressed that you have read at least one book and accessed a library, even knowing there are specific sections. Well done you. Next you'll be telling me you have a degree.

I think I do recall reading about a Captain with dog called the n word at some point. A story from way back when racism was accepted in society.

So why would I probably not remember reading about him and his dog?

Maybe some people might classify Dawlish.com as social media, but I doubt the majority would. 

@BOO HOO I'll stay on my soap box as long as I like. 

@DAC commonly known as Dawlish Against Certain people who dont like jazz or ambient music

As @BOO HOO says your getting boring so cant be bothered to reply to your "Ageist " response. Carry on with your book and make sure you have enough crayons to finish it.

@1263 - I would have thought it is most probably time for DAC's afternoon nap, before Mummy makes his tea.

@boo hoo

More likey his  mum has told him to get of the computer and finish his homework before bed

@1263 What was ageist about anything I wrote? I was under the impression you remembered WW2. That would make you really old. There's nothing to be offended about.

And why would you have a problem with ageism but not racism?

@BOO HOO Did you choose that avatar to give children nightmares?

@DAC.

Explain why you choose "Dawlish" against censorship which infers that this is a group of some sort of dawlish people. I see dawlish against plastic, dawlish gardening club etc etc but no where any DAC society,/ group / organisation etc. I bet if there really was one you sould want to be chairman. Aw c'mon confess your really only a solitary keyboard warrior who likes to pretend their importantance by pretending you are a spokesman for a non existant group. Shame really.....

By the way what are you(r) imaginary group actually For ??? as all we know is what your against.

Another point when you say "some people might classify this platform  as social media  but you doubt the majority would" Have you taken a poll of dawlish people to back this up or is thIs what the DAC "members" have told you. To save you further embarrasment look up what social media and you will see it is exactly what dawlish threads  pertains to be.

I dont know if you missed pre-school when you were younger but you dont need a degree to read a book.

Not going to end this post with any sarcastic comments because  i think you do not have the capacity to really engage and its cruel of  me to continue to highlight your failings.

@1263 So you think I should explain myself to you eh?

Nothing much to explain. I simply choose it based on being pretty disgusted by former chair of TDC Lib Dem Cllr Rosie Dawson. It seems Dawlish is against plastic but nobody seems to know or be bothered about Dawson's censorship. Then again we have a group against plastic in a town with a plastic zoo, where tradespeople sell plastic tat to tourists. Is anything a true representation?

There is also have a group on here called Teignbridge Against Climate Alarmism T.A.C.A where you have to be a member to join in, but that looks like it's just one person @Steve, and so what? Does that irk you so much too?

So yes it's just me and occasionally one or two others, who incidentally have a good laugh at your angry rants. Maybe Dawlish Against Censorship should become a group. I've just been too busy to organize it. Why are you interested in joining? Would you be able to behave yourself in person? If it were a group it'd be in the Societies listing. I can call myself what I want, just as you can call yourself @1263

On the social media comment, no I haven't taken a poll. Have you?

In one sense you could claim these interactions are a form of social media, but when I and I'd say most people think of Social Media they think of the likes of Facebook and X.

Increasingly Dawlish.com contributors are AI bots in any case.

Anyone judging our discussions on this site would think Dawish.com was a form of anti-social media.

And you are correct, you do not need a degree to read a book. Thanks for sharing that gem of an insight with however many people come on this site and of course all the bots.

Goodnight.

@DAC - It is about time you grew up and stopped acting like a petulent child. I can only assume you have not been taking your med's. 

@BOO HOO There is nothing petulant or childish about what I've written. I've just replied to @1263's posts. 

Why are you getting personal and lowering the level to petty insults?

@DAC,  I think you need to look back at what you have written in this post. In my opinion you have slurred a former M.P. who had zero intent on making it a racist comment. Although you are a prime example of what is currently infecting society the last few years with your 'BURN THE WITCH' style of rhetoric when something bruises your feelings.

Grow up and move on, you are becoming thoroughly boring and add nothing positive to the original post, again in my opinion.

There is very little real racism in the UK yet left-wingers go on about it constantly. Anyone that doesn't agree with left-wing nonsense is a racist today.

Reform are popular because the Tories failed the country and Labour are failing even more.

@Steve - Nicely said. Summed up in a nutshell.

@Boo Hoo, I suppose you think Johnson's Golly Wog comment was a slip of the tongue too? same for Prince Phillips 'slanty eyes' comments when referring to Chinese people? 

You can speculate on intent. I haven't done so. I just think people like Morris are ignorant, they're conditioned by their class and upbringing, they most likely can't help it even when surrounded by government aides and advisors.  It's ingrained.  We should expect better from a public representative. 

Dawlish.com is being taken over by a bunch of paranoid right wingers, who just seek out conflict on the one hand and by a bunch of AI bots on the other. At least the latter have manners and post some stuff worth reading.

So there you have it, racism doesn't exist everyone. It's all a left-wing conspiracy. THE MARXISTS are coming!!!!

@Steve warns us that "Anyone that doesn't agree with left-wing nonsense is a racist today." Yeah @Steve knows best. He's still  looking for anyone to join him on his members only group Teignbridge Against Climate Alarmism.

Left-wing? What left-wing? It all looks very right wing to me, from the media to all the parties, except that Greens.

Ah, Is that who we should fear the Green party?! Are they in control of how we act and think and not the Russians or tech companies linked to the Chinese State?

@Steve  "Reform are popular because the Tories failed the country and Labour are failing even more."

Glad you agree with me @DAC but Farage is not a billionaire not that it would matter if he was. It's only leftists that have a hang up about financially successful people.

@Steve Yeah because former commodities traders like Nigel and bankers did the economy a world of good back in 2008 didn't they?. And all those wealthy shareholders with shares in the big energy firms and corporations avoiding tax really give a damn about pensioners losing their winter fuel payment and the cost of living crisis, etc. 

I'm not interested in you labelling everyone who disagrees with you leftists, we already know your views. You constantly remind us. British society isn't going to change radically just to suit people like you. The wealthy financial backers of the Reform party aren't interested in changing society to benefit the majority, any more than those who back the Tories and Starmer's Labour.

The 2008 financial crisis was caused by governments, in particular the US government under George Bush, not by commodities traders.

It's called moral hazard. You can look it up. In the UK we had "No more boom and bust" under Labour as they deliberately stoked a housing boom.

It started when the US government decided to use taxpayer's money to back subprime mortgages.

@Steve - I did not realise that you could insert youtube vids on posts, interesting.

@BOO HOO yeah there's a button next to the image button where you can put in a youtube link.