@b.o.liking Could you be more specific? Which deals in particular?
Peterson and Fitzgerald at the Philharmonic is a joy to behold. @1263 if jazz isn't your cup of tea, I'm sure there's something else to do next Saturday.
@1263 It's already happening. Councils encouraging and facilitating volunteering is just an extension of Cameron's Big Society and what Wrigley as Leader of TDC called 'Community Powered Councils'. It sounds more inclusive, it aims to make people think they have greater say in democracy, but it's just about ceding any responsibility and accountability because they haven't really got a clue. ...
@1263 The MDA is all about poor journalism. It often portrays Herr Wriggler as someone who 'demands' things. It's part of the persona he tries to cultivate for himself as a tough guy who were are meant to believe does things differently and gets results, aided by the Lib Dem biased MDA. It's laughable as Wrigley is a coward, an egotist and an absolute career politician. He is demanding, but ...
@Paul I wasn't debating right and wrong. Animal welfare is secondary to profit, whether animals are bred for food or for sports. Livestock farming also has a negative environmental impact. Growth hormones and anti-biotics, coupled with cases of contamination where meats are basically marinated in faecal matter post slaughter means the welfare of those eating these 'animal products' isn't a ...
We don't need Councils, replace them with cohorts of volunt-workers instead.
Seems like many millions to make commodities' lives slightly less sh1t than they already are before they're murdered.
@Paul Did the Conservative government do anything about cruelty to animals in farming? No. Where was your animal rights activism then? Or have you become one since Labour got into power? Labour won't do anything about it. Farm animals are simply seen as commodities, in other words 'live stock' and the entire industry is based on cruelty and exploitation. The removal of crates and cages ...
@Steve Wow! Where did that come from?
@Steve I agree there is no defence for what is ritualistic cruelty. But what's the defence for non ritualized cruelty in the day to day farming of animals? Is cruelty okay as long as it isn't ritualized? @1263 There's nothing over the top about it, it is based on what I've read on various threads from these two contributors. I did not launch into anything, I simply do not believe that ...