General Discussion
Heard today that, London excepted, more men have walked on the moon than there are non-tory MPs in the south of England, however you define that. Oh well, at least the far SW got it's all important rail line pledges, 'What's that Sooty, they didn't?'
If it's of any comfort, it may be of interest to know that for once Londoners are in it together. Although services are not being cut, the off-peak daily price cap (for Zones 1 to 6) on the much promoted Oyster Card rose this year from £8.50 to £11.70. This is a whopping rise of 38% !!!!!!!!
@leatash - well yes i see a certain irony there. With HS2 it is just the sort of glam project that most politicians love to have as their legacy. The Channel Tunnel and the Olympics being two other points in case. Both being very worth while but costing 'loadsa money'. Not to mention that the channel tunnel in effect went bust but luckily had to be rescued by the banks because they owned ...
'...it's all about the money, money, money; it's all about money, money, money....'
....or no 'Warren'....
I find myself agreeing with JC 100% here. Yes the Engineers did an absolutely fantasic job. The Gov't funding to enable them to do so was nothing more than one would jolly well expect under the circumstances, so I don't really understand why they are patting themselves on the back so much for that one. Oh yes I do, silly me, something to do with this May?!! As for 'stong connections' (or ...
Argh, I am not the 'Plymouth Mob'!! Just saying that statistically, Oke-Tavy provides the best resilience (against engineering works -planned or not) for the greatest number of users, for the least 'new line' cost. Whilst at the same time restoring rail travel to new communities. Only a handfull of lossers, ie those directly on the old formation. Plus DCC offices in Tavy but they ...
And that's a very pertinent joke JC because it shows that trouble can strike on rail lines in quite unpredictable ways. Hence, the beauty of the Oke-Tavy solution is that it would provide resilience for problems ANYWHERE (Exeter St David's/Cowley excepted) on the entire 52 miles of the South Devon Line. Any if Torbay complains that it would do nothing to help them, then they can find the extra ...
Agree both ways!! 2hr.40 is realistically about right to run as a reliable circular. Hence would require 6 trains in each direction to run a 'clock face' timetable. But that's getting ahead of myself....first needs 'good intent words' from our 'canvasing polititians' to be turned into ballast, rails and sleepers etc.!!
My other strong view is that once open it should be run as a circular route connecting Devon Nth, Sth, East and West. i.e. Plymouth, Ivybridge (which currenty has a woeful service), Totnes, NA, Teignmouth, Dawlish Exeter, Crediton, Okhampton, Lydford, Tavistock, Bere Alston Plymouth. What a fantastic choice of journeys that would opportune. No reversing of trains at Exeter or Plymouth and no ...
