General Discussion

Just had this forwarded on to me. (my emphasis in bold)

The County Council has used Local Sustainable Transport Fund money to extend Service B from Exeter hourly beyond Exminster to Dawlish (some journeys further extended to Teignmouth). This portion of funding is now coming to an end. Therefore, the Exminster - Dawlish - Teignmouth section of Service B will be withdrawn after operation on Saturday 28th March, except for two peak work-time journeys each way which will continue to be extended to Dawlish and Teignmouth on a commercial basis.

Most users of the withdrawn section of Service B can use Service 2 (Newton Abbot - Dawlish - Exeter) as an alternative. Passengers from Dawlish, Starcross and Kenton who wish to travel to Matford and Marsh Barton can change to Service B in Exminster, although the continuing peak-time Service B journeys will cater for most existing work travellers.

Service B has also included a further hourly extension to Dawlish Warren, provided by Stagecoach on an entirely commercial basis. Stagecoach have decided to withdraw this after operation on Saturday 28th March as it is not commercially viable.

Dawlish Warren will therefore lose its direct bus service to Exeter. But it will continue to be served by:

- Stagecoach Service 11 (half-hourly) to Dawlish, with alternate buses continuing to Torquay, offering interchange in Exeter Road with Service 2 for Exeter and Newton Abbot;

- Dawlish Community Transport Service 187 (once each way per day via Cockwood) to Dawlish;

- Rail service (hourly off-peak period; half-hourly peak) to Exeter St. David’s / Exeter Central and Newton Abbot / Torquay.

We are awaiting figures from Stagecoach as to the total passenger usage from Dawlish Warren on the Service B that’s being withdrawn, but we think it unlikely that the figures would sustain any supported replacement service - particularly in the context of current proposals to reduce supported services throughout the County, and in the light of the alternative services available from Dawlish Warren. Stagecoach have previously informed us that most Dawlish Warren bus passengers wish to go to Dawlish, which they will still be able to do.

These changes are not included in the current public consultation on bus service reductions since they relate (i) to a separate external funding stream (LSTF) and (ii) to a commercial decision by the bus company.

I really like the B service ..is/was always on time starting from Dawlish and straight into the High Street BHS in 45 minutes but yes the number of people that use it are poor.

On average about 5-10 at most on the Dawlish side of Exminster..  So can see why they want to dump it.  It is a shame it takes so long for people to realise new services are avaialble...then it's too late.

Of course I expect people will want it to stay now!... i may have said before, reminds me of a dear old lady that said in another area ..please dont take the bus off, i've never used it but it's great to see it go bye! 

And our buses are certainly going "Bye"!

I assume that the B service from Dawlish is not going to run on a Saturday morning peak time (the only time I occasionally use it). Saturdays are classed as off-peak aren't they?

All we need is FGW to provide us with enough coaches at the right times of day (including Saturday and Sunday mornings towards Exeter to get in well before 9 on a Sat and 10 on a Sun). Asking too much though as the Riviera Line is certainly the poor relation compared to the Avocet Line. 

Just received this. It may be of particular interest to bus users who live in the Warren.

"Hi all and perhaps you can let as many others know as possible.

I understand that the Dawlish Council are due to respond to the fact that Dawlish Warren will not have a bus service to Exeter with effect from 28th March at the Council Meeting next Wednesday evening the 4th March - any member of the public can attend council meetings and it might just help if there are one or two there!!!

I don't think anyone other than those who live in Dawlish Warren realise that the '186' bus only runs once a day and takes some 3/4 of an hour to get into Dawllish from the Warren!!!!!!!!!

Unfortunately I will not personally be able to go next Wednesday but hope there may be others who will go."
 

Just received this from whom?

The person who sent it to me.

I didn't give the source of my first post on this thread either.

Oh and by the way -other than my posting on here and writing the occasional letter to the local paper, you have no idea what I do and what I don't do.

As I said, you do not know what I do and what I do not do. That I choose not to go to committee or other types of meetings does not mean that I do not take part in other ways.

And why for goodness sake should I, or anyone else for that matter, be expected to take part physically (eg attend meetings?).

Since when has being able to express opinions about things been dependant on being physically involved?

What nonsense you spout sometimes. 

Couldn't give a stuff about my name. Perhaps I'll start using a pseudonym, as certain others do............

And more to the point, do you know what?  I don't give a stuff about what you think.

Dont rise to it Lynne your posts are interesting and, well researched just keep doing what you do best.

I've been an observer of this site for 5 years but never posted until now. I don't know Lynne personally but what I do know is that she has put  a lot of effort in over the years to keep locals up to date with what the powers that be have planned for this town, be it through the front or back door. I'm very grateful to Lynne for her efforts in keeping the uninformed, informed. Thank you Lynne.

I have noticed over the last year or so how this site has deteriorated. Too often now it is about denigrating fellow posters rather than concentrating on the issues that truly matter to the townfolk. It may be only a few posters but it is a dominant few that are slowly ruining this valuable informative site. Please don't let them webmaster!

I'll sneak off back into the shadows now.

Alas, I believe that you'll have a long wait until the webmaster shows any teeth.

He may well threaten to warn somebody, but that's about as good as it gets.

You may see it as my being secretive JC. I see it as my pointing out that I am not answerable to you.

It's not about being answerable to me at all Lynne! What a bizarre train of thought! I was genuinely interested in who is organising this, as I've got a vested interest in the outcome as a user of the bus services! But you go all secret squirrel and it ends up like this! "All about the info", indeed. 

It was a private e-mail, subsequently forwarded on to me but as you can see from its text its author wished the information within it to be distributed as widely as possible. So I posted the text on here. The author said nothing about putting her/his private e-mail address in the public domain. So I haven't and won't. 

Had you explained the reasons behind your wishing to know who had sent the e-mail, and without your making your snidy comments, I still wouldn't have told you. For the reasons I give in the paragraph above.

However, given the comments you made about me on this thread, my responses, which are addressed to you in particular, still hold. 

Now, as it is such a nice day I may go out for a walk. I may go down the Warren way. If I see you I'll give you a wave (or something).  Someone (but don't ask me who JC 'cos I ain't saying....) told me there might be some Sand pipers down there. 

(and should you respond to this posting please don't expect a response back from me. I've got other, and some might say far better, things to do with my time).

Good Day.

So here we go again. It is obvious that Lynne and JC know each other and it's also very obvious there is bad blood between them. As Lynne stated she knows who JC is. 

So why do they use this forum to continue thier fued with each other as it becomes so unnecessary. If I had to make a choice between these two warring factions my vote would go to Lynne. I know that taking sides is somewhat childish but I see JC as a miserable and obnoxious individual. For all I know she may be just the same in real life.

I think Lynn should  impart the identity of the individual to all of us, then we could all spit at her in the street and I  could sue her for libel.

Fact: JC and I do not know each other. To my knowledge we have never met. We might know who the other one is but that is not the same as knowing each other. 

My posting name (my real name) speaks my gender (female)

But is Judith Chalmers the real name of the person who posts on here under that moniker? Is the person who posts under that name necessarily female? Has the person who presently posts on here using the name Judith Chalmers posted on this website before using other posting names? Mrs C perhaps? Other names before that?

Nothing to say that any one person should not do that of course (as Judith will be only too quick to point out). So, will JC stay JC or will s/he reinvent themselves on here, under yet another posting name, sometime soon?

Who knows? (But I know what I think). 

If it's of any comfort, it may be of interest to know that for once Londoners are in it together.  Although services are not being cut, the off-peak daily price cap (for Zones 1 to 6) on the much promoted Oyster Card rose this year from £8.50 to £11.70.  This is a whopping rise of 38% !!!!!!!!

And as has been pointed out before there is nothing to stop any one individual having different posting names at any one particular time. They just need to set up separate accounts for each posting name.

Just saying..........

As I have said so many times...as people seem to be unable to be pleasant to each other .. I would remove the discussion page here and leave all the 'bickering' to Facebook.

Because someone pressed the Report button. 

Wondering there's some interesting stuff posted on here. Not sure why that should be banned just because you can't ignore it.  Probably best just to not visit the site.