General Discussion
Plod For clarity please answer this question: In your opinion can a council enforce their off street car parks under the provisions of the Traffic Management Act 2004 using an ANPR device that has been certified/approved by the secretary of state (via the VCA)? If it has been certified - YES. But the VCA cannot certify anything off it's own back unless the Secretary of State for Transport has made ...
Plod, You my friend are totally missing the point and that point is ANPR cameras can only be used in off street car parks for enforcement purposes, PROVIDING they have been certified for use in such places by the SofS for Transport. The only legislation that I know of is just that, "BEFORE USE, IT HAS TO BE CERTIFIED I have cut and pasted much to show you were you are wrong in your assertions ...
And Thousands of 'rip-off' parking fines dished out in town hall car parks illegally using automatic number plate recognition Thousands of drivers have been illegally handed fines of up to £100 Many town hall car parks are operating outside the law, ministers say This is because they installed a utomatic number plate recognition S ystem has not been approved and it ...
I see there is more than one windup merchant on this site. Approval for ANPR use in car parks has to come from the SofS for Transport not the VCA. VCA only has approval to manufacture.
As far as I am aware, there is no law other than LA's cannot use ANPR cameras to enforce contraventions in their car parks, UNLESS THE DEVICE USED (CAMERA) HAS A CERTIFICATE FROM THE SECRETARY of STATE for TRANSPORT to use it for those purposes. NO CERTIFICATE, NO USE. Just a small snippet from the BPA British Parking Association) who's many members are LA's have tried for years to get things ...
Plod has demonstrated why ANPR could not be used in LA owned car parks. And to leatash, what could be and what is, are two different things. Swansea Uni is a private car park and the law which covers private car parks, is different than regulated car parks. And before anyone asks. A regulated car park is one owned by a local authority, relevant land is privately owned and the enforcers enforce ...
Plod, Show me which LA in Devon are using ANPR to enforce their car parks, and are they using a device that has been certified by the Secretary of State for Transport? Obtain the certificate and I will rest my case.
I will add further. CEO's carry hand held computor's, the photo's that they take with that hand held cannot be used as evidence because it is not an approved device to do that. So why do they take photo's of your car if they cannot be used as evidence.Simply to back up the arguements should anyone appeal a parking ticket but not as evidence. that is recorded seperately.
Lisa, I guess you and plod have got it wrong. It works like this:- There are all sorts of devices which are used for many different situations, and unless the Secretary of State for Transport certifies any device, it does not become an approved device for enforcement purposes. Do you understand now? If not I suggest you go back to plod and ask what is a device and what is an approved ...
And further lisa. Enforcement using Approved Devices 8.9 Traffic Management Act 2004 Regulations give limited powers to authorities throughout England to issue penalty charge notices for contraventions detected solely with a camera and associated recording equipment The Secretary of State must certify any such device. Once certified they may be called an ‘approved device’. Penalty charge ...
