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PETROL STRIKE

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hmm
hmm
15 Jun 2008 12:11

Who thinks that £32,000 is a poor wage as a lorry driver? I don't. If they get another £4,000 a year then food will go up etc. Is this a repeat of the Labour Government in the 1970's all over again!!!
Fuel shortage seems to be affecting the West first.

anon
anon
15 Jun 2008 20:35

which garage has fuel at present (sunday)

Mouse
Mouse
15 Jun 2008 20:39

£32000??? why should they get that much all they do is drive arund petrol ok theres some risk but theres risk with everything these days. the south west is hit bad, dawlish has no petrol, exeter is running low and torquay has a little otherwise its further a feild or people us epublic transport

Mouse
Mouse
15 Jun 2008 20:40

BP, sainsburys, tescos and esso in exeter currently have petrol as of sunday 3pm in the afternoon.

anon
anon
15 Jun 2008 20:47

i think you will find that their wages are £39,000 a year and these tanker drivers are skilled people. They have a lot of responsibility to deliver huge amounts of fuel safely to the countries forecourts. Could you imagine if one of these things were to ever explode, these drivers are highly trained and worth every penny.
And i don't think its fair blameing these guys for the cost of living going up its the money grabbing government to blame.

bardwell
bardwell
15 Jun 2008 21:36

Sorry but £39,000 looks like a lot of money from where I stand and it's really not that skilled. No sympathy from this neck of the woods! (Particularly after having had to cancel an important appointment today as had been gullible enough to believe Government's 'no reason to panic' line).

Guba guba
Guba guba
16 Jun 2008 05:39

There basic wage now is £36,000. The average wage in the UK is £32,000 per annum this figure is so high because there are a lot of high earners in I.T.,banking etc.
I do not see why they are striking for an extra £2,000 a year when they are on a good salary. Is it dangerous I have never heard of one going up in flames. Firemen/women get about the same after training and working their way up, THAT is a dangerous job.Nurses get nowhere near it and they save peoples lives.

It is not the government who is greedy it is the employers, especially in Devon and Cornwall.

Mouse
Mouse
16 Jun 2008 08:47

i agree why should they get as much as that, nurses, doctors and fire people need that as they are risking there lifes every day for the sake of ours.

Viaduct
Viaduct
16 Jun 2008 09:20




There is not a lot of substance to some peoples arguments. Asking why, why, why, all of the time is not addressing the problem.
The problem is greed, and that problem has to be addressed.
Does anyone think it is right that billionares should be allowed to go on making more billion's?
Does anyone think it right that MP's can put in a claim for expences without having to justify what the expence was for?
Does anyone think it is right that estate agent's (who I might add, are the only one's in the loop of property dealing without qualifications) are allowed to adjudge what a property is worth?
Ask your self why when a job is advertised there is a salary or wage attached to the job.
These are just a few examples of why there is greed and why it is promoted.
And I will also add, if the petrol tanker drivers get what they want, ask yourself why they got it.

anon
anon
16 Jun 2008 09:52

Myself i think they get a decent wage already.Is it a skilled job? The answer is Yes.
If it wasnt then they wouldnt be on the wages that they are on.They're not just any old lorry drivers.They are the most trained and tested drivers in the countery.It also costs them thousands to put themselves through these tests.
Safety wise, you dont hear many of them crashing, this is because of the training and testing they are put through, if you had any old driver doing the job then their would be many more crashes.
They also know that if they crash they would almost certainly be killed.

Are they worth the amount they get? No

Are they worth more than your average driver?Definately Yes

Viaduct
Viaduct
16 Jun 2008 10:29

What do you think they are wporth then and why do you think they are worth what you think?

Focus
Focus
16 Jun 2008 10:37

They were getting £32,000 per year 15 years ago! That was a bloody good wage then.
They say they haven't had an increase in all that time.
The average salary now is only £23,000 per year.
I'm sorry but Greed is the only word for it.

anon
anon
16 Jun 2008 11:50

So the price of fuel will go up if they get what they demand and so will food.
If they get what they want then how about sack some of the most recently employed, cut some corners...I thought Mts T stopped all this strike stuff.
Is Gordon going to be there for 5 more years?
Oh joy!

anon
anon
16 Jun 2008 15:55

Yet again you've all found something to moan at, just because some drivers want more pay you are all prepared to stick the knives in. It's now their fault that the cost of living has gone up food, petrol, etc so you say. Well a least the drivers have the backbone to stand up for what they believe in and provide a better life for themselves.
When things like Fuel/Council Tax/Road Tax/Parking fees etc go up because councils & goverment say it needs to the typical british attitude is ok whatever you say. No backbone anymore to stand up and say enough is enough.
Anyway i think i solved the problem, if we build a supermarket in Dawlish we will not have to worry so much about fuel costs as we could all leave our cars at home and shop locally and we wouldn't have to pay 50p to park down town for 30 minutes mind you most of them have blue badges on them now. We could use the shopper bus and taxis just think of the money you'd save and you would help towards saving the enviroment.

anon
anon
16 Jun 2008 16:58

Calling the pot black...
Anon you say 'stick your knives' well you just had a go at people who are disabled with blue badges, are you envyous of them?

People won't be going to the new supermarket will they if its half the size of Newton.
Is for holiday people. If Dawlish does use it .. will make history.
Anyways I've not got a car..have saved a fortune.

Cycling Cecilia
Cycling Cecilia
16 Jun 2008 18:12

The roads are ever so quiet tonight. Yippee! I'm out on me bike. Pedal power not petrol power.

PS Re supermarkets: if no fuel, no transport. Therefore no supplies. What then your supermarkets?

Viaduct
Viaduct
16 Jun 2008 18:40

Well done Cycling Cecilia, there are muppets on here that could not think of doing that, in fact some of the comments we get, they cannot think, full stop.
Foxhayes garage, Exeter, are charging £1.99p per ltr. I wonder if the non thinkers on here think it is not worth that amount?

postie
postie
16 Jun 2008 20:14

You said muppetts dont exist to another poster!

Those in Holcombe who have run out of petrol could shop at the local store/post office.lets just hope in doesnt happen again in the future otherwise you'll all starve to death.

Local Economy
Local Economy
16 Jun 2008 21:13

Don't forget DIG FOR VICTORY!

Let's get some WWII spirit going.

As for supermarkets - like Private Jones says in Dad's Army - stick it up 'em.

anon
anon
18 Jun 2008 17:54

They got 14% increase..good grief. So petrol will be heading for £2 soon then.

Viaduct
Viaduct
18 Jun 2008 18:08

In the 40's Dawlish was surrounded by allotments, the short sitedness of councillors of the day (nothing has change there) destroyed them and allowed development. Now what have we got--a small plot at Brown's Brook which is rented from the Luscombe estate, (and the rent per plot is exhorbitant) when they have enough money to buy land for the purpose.

Local Economy
Local Economy
18 Jun 2008 18:32

Let's get some more allotments then.

Viaduct
Viaduct
18 Jun 2008 18:51

You will need to apply pressure on your beloved councillors to do that. You won't need to dig for victory, you will be digging to survive.

anon
anon
18 Jun 2008 22:09

We could build at least 20 allotments in Viaducts mouth.He's boring us all to death.Now he calls himself Rainbow,Roy.How many more names will he have? Sad git

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