General Discussion
How to contact your cllrs
At the risk of being on the receiving end of the cynical wrath of Viaduct, Jambuster and various others here is some info on our local cllrs.
If you don't like what's going on, tell them!(and that includes about planning applications -not that I'm inciting anyone about anything in particular you understand. Me? Perish the thought.
Teignbridge District Council
Humphrey Clemens, Manor Farm, Holcombe, Dawlish. Tel 01626 863020
Humphrey.clemens@aol.com or Cllr.Clemens@Dawlishtowncouncil.uk.net
Graham Price, Mewstone, The Mews, Dawlish. Tel: 01626 867088
Graham@the-mews.eclipse.co.uk
Rosalind Prowse, 4 Nash Gardens, Dawlish. Tel: 01626 866621
rosedens@hotmail.com
Ted Hockin, Aalsmeer, 14a Exeter Road, Dawlish. Tel: 01626 862088
e.hockin@tiscali.co.uk
Mary Mugford, Seaforth, 7 Mount Pleasant Road, Dawlish. Tel: 01626 863516
Mmugford@teignbridge.gov.uk
Dawlish Town Council
See above for details of:
- Humphrey Clemens
- Graham Price
- Rosalind Prowse
- Ted Hockin
- Mary Mugford
Geoff Wills, 13 Kingsdown Crescent, Dawlish. 01626 888074. geoffwills@ccz.eclipse.co.uk
Helen Humphries, Flat, 6 Marine Parade, Dawlish, 01626 862233. helenhumphries@aol.com
Pauline Bloomfield, 50 Cofton Hill, Cockwood, ex6 8RB. 01626 890200. paulinebloomfield@btinternet.com
Wally Protheroe, Mount Pleasant Inn, Mount Pleasant Road, Dawlish Warren. 01626 863151. wallyprotheroe@tiscali.co.uk
Francine Tullis, Branscombe Cottage, Branscombe Lane, Dawlish. EX7 0QU. 01626 864424
Jackie Bush, 2 Elm Grove, Dawlish. 01626 865704. jaivic@aol.com
Helen Wills, 13 Kingsdown Crescent, Dawlish, EX7 0HP. 01626 888074. helenwills@ccz.eclipse.co.uk
Janet Garland, Cranworthy, 10 Luscombe Terrace, Dawlish. 01626 888312
Derek Collins, 5 Little Week gardens, Dawlish. EX7 0RB
Some further information - wards
The Teignbridge and Town Councillors represent parts of Dawlish, or wards, on their respective councils. Which ward you are in depends on where you live.
Teignbridge District Councillors
For the purpose of the District Council, Dawlish is divided into two wards.
Ted Hockin, Graham Price and Mary Mugford represent Dawlish Central and North East ward on Teignbridge District Council. For example Lady's Mile Camping site is situated in this ward. This ward covers roughly the town centre out to Cockwood.
Humphrey Clemens and Rosalind Prowse represent Dawlish South West on Teignbridge District Council. This ward covers, roughly, an area from the western side of the town, including Holcombe, to the boundary with Teignmouth.
Dawlish Town Councillors
For the purpose of the Town Council, Dawlish is divided into three wards.
1) North East – from the eastern side of the town to Cockwood
2) Central – covering the town centre
3) South West – from the western side of the town, including Holcombe, to the boundary with Teignmouth.
Pauline Bloomfield & Francine Tullis represent North East Ward.
Graham Price, Geoff Wills, Wally Protheroe, Ted Hockin, Mary Mugford, Janet Garland, Derek Collins represent Central Ward
Humphrey Clemens, Helen Humphries, Rosalind Prowse, Jackie Bush, Helen Wills, represent South West Ward
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In the topic, "How to contact your councillor", written up by “Elector”, he/she had this to say: "If you don't like what's going on, tell them! (And that includes about planning applications -not that I'm inciting anyone about anything in particular you understand. Me? Perish the thought".
Most useful information you have supplied to the uninformed. And you need to be commended for that. What you do not understand is this, (You can tell them all you like but they are only interested in keeping the status quo). You are either someone who dislikes the relentless attack some of us launch on our council and that attack from me at least is for very, very good reason. Or you are oblivious to what is going on.
I will give you (and I hope you are a councillor who may act upon it) an example of what is wrong in part. There is no transparency, although council will have us believe otherwise.
Politicians however low or high up they think they are, are there to represent those that put them in office and not themselves. Just look at what is going on at the top with MEP’s and MP’s expenses, (I am no longer on our MP’s xmas card list, so that should save a bit) When they are there, we should be informed of what they do and how they do it, instead, we get nothing.
There are after a general discussion, (and sometimes there is no general discussion) a unanimous vote recorded in minutes for a topic. Some of those voting do not even know what they are voting for (probably nodded off with boredom) and more to the point the electorate has no idea either. No one outside of a meeting would have any idea as to what was discussed, whether who was for or against or who discussed what. If the electorate does not know what is said, by whom and whether it is for or against what is being discussed,(and yet still when a vote is taken go with the flow), then how would any elector know whether or not the one they voted into office has done the job expected of them? The minute taker writes in what suits and not what actually happened.
I believe that a loop-in-system of some sort has been installed (for the hard of hearing), pity they hadn’t gone that extra mile and added a recording system, so that if a draft of the minutes produced(which never happens) could be checked before someone signs the minutes, (without any check) as being correct.
The Town clerk has a lot to answer for in this respect but councillor’s close a blind eye.
It is no good any councillor being at a meeting if they are only there to make up the numbers.
Time after time councillors will trot out what other engagements they have attended, but no one, apart from themselves---have any idea, the reasons for their attendance. Was it to support or to voice concerns as to why they attended that engagement?
Some councillors do what they like when they like and do not give a toss about anyone else, I think it is a phrase often used, “blow you jack, I’m alright”.
Who was it that erected steel gates at the bottom of Hatcher Street/Luscombe Terrace (Blackswan Place) and denied the Public Right of Way, which had been in place for years? He may have had planning permission for erecting the gates, but planning did not say he could block a Right of Way, but he did and did any other councillor voice concerns in committee? Show me in the minutes if I am wrong. It is all matey, matey that is pretty obvious.
Elector
I see the PR machine is in full-swing, attempting to bolster the rabble that go under the guise of mayor and councillors. It's all very well giving out information on how to air grievances against these charlatans.....but you do so, from a smug and arrogant standpoint.
You know very well, that the system will close ranks, protecting the clique, regardless of their numerous misdemeanours. This results in apathy, which allows our councillors/mayor to carry on with pompous impunity.
Thankfully, the likes of Viaduct, Jambuster and many others, are fighting this apathy, by highlighting our Town Councils corruption and ineptitude. In turn, this will result in an open and transparent Council, where ALL of Dawlish is represented and not just the inner-sanctum.
I say inner-sanctum, as i believe there is an elite group of councillors who preside over underling councillors, keeping them in the dark on many matters, with the aim of maximising their ill-gotten gains. This inner-circle includes; Protheroe, Hockin, Mugford, Price, Clemens amongst their members. Look at what they have accrued over the years and it becomes apparent this runs parallel with their council business.
As regards the Gazette and the Post, can we really trust the reporter Tom Scobie (i am loathe to use the term journalist), when he is in the pocket of mayor Protheroe and is an ex councillor? I recently contacted The Mid Devon Advertisor in respect of the non-transparent reporting on council matters in Dawlish. During the conversation, the subject turned to the lack of a Dawlish correspondent after the mysterious departure of Jonathan Wright (also in mayor Protheroe's pocket and an ex employee of mayor Protheroe's). I was informed that they were "having trouble filling this position as the issue of Dawlish Town Council was too much of a hot-potato" and that "we're better off without a reporter there because of this".
So much for, unbiased, open and transparent investigations. That's why websites like 'Dawlish Live' are important....to fulfil the obligations of a true democratic process; something you won't find at Dawlish Town Council meetings or on the Dawlish Town Council website.
I am not a councillor - nor do I wish to be one.
As you don't know who I am how do you know that I am "smug" and "arrogant". That you claim that I am those things without even knowing me shows smugness and arrogance on your part I believe.
Let people test the system and judge as THEY find.
You never know they might end up agreeing with you. For all you know I might agree with you,already,right now, as I type this.
Elector
I doubt very much you agree with me....if that was the case, why are you defending a council and mayor, who, for years have abused the system? You state "let people test the system and judge as they find", this confirms your smugness and arrogance as you know very well that the system is as corrupt as the people it protects.
For a long time, councillors representing their Towns and Parishes, have enjoyed this freedom, safe in the knowledge that the system will deflect and absorb detrimental questioning.
With numerous websites and blogs informing the public of what really goes on, the system itself will, eventually, become obsolete and dysfunctional (like many of the councillors).
Not sure how you reckon from my postings that I'm defending anyone - I merely wanted to let people know who their cllrs are and how to contact them.
Whether or not people do, and whether or not they get any response from the Cllrs if they do is another matter entirely.
Smug and arrogant? - not me mate. (Unless of course it takes one to know one?)
Elector
I am intrigued with your help regarding the contacting of councillors. Is this because you have a vested interest, guiding complainants through the system, ensuring that their inquiries are sidelined?
You play dumb, when the truth is you know exactly how the system works and what the outcome will be. The system is for the councillors and NOT the people.
For those of you wishing to contact your cllrs re any major planning applications or anything else you are none too happy with - see the very first posting above.
It is quite clear from some of the postings that some people have an extrodinary imagination. They haven't a clue how the system works and that is because there is little if any transparency in the system to inform them.
First people should understand that most of what is going on in politics (not so much at a higher level)is matey, matey. There are funny handshakes to let each other know what side you are on. There is a declaration of interest stated, to let others know that it is something to do with me, so hold things up or whatever, until we can grab a handle.
No system is perfect, but the system we have in place is a breeding ground for corruption.
Let the people know sits on a committee and when a vote is taken for whatever, state who voted for, against or abstained. Stating that a number voted for another number voted against and others abstained, is not transparent enough.
By not naming allows for politics to be played and it also covers up those who have no interest other than their own.