General Discussion
Younger-Ross
Good to see Younger-Ross with his finger on the pulse again. Just witnessed him on Spotlight News spitting venom on the voting outcome of the Eurovision Song Contest. With his talent for addressing the non-issues of the day, it's no wonder Tony Blair 'chewed him up and spat him out' at Prime Ministers Questions.
What an embarrassment to Devon politics this buffoon is. How on earth did he get to represent us, in Teignbridge?!
Actually, I too thought what is Younger-Ross making such a fuss about? The Eurovision Song Contest!? Then it turns out that the BBC has to foot a quarter of the bill for this nonsense being staged! If that is right it is outrageous and he is quite right to be making a fuss.
How much fuss does he make about the very low wages in the south west?
How much fuss does he make about the high number of holiday homes in the south west? which have pushed house prices through the roof and denied many the chance of buying a property, when they have lived here all their lives.
How much fuss does he make about supermarkets ruining the quality of life for the many at the expence of the few?
Etc, etc, etc.
If it is a topic which causes the greatest concern, he gets his running shoes on.
Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something.
Plato (427 BC-347 BC)
Me thinks Younger-Ross and his lackey Protheroe drink from the same trough.
WHY DOESN'T YOUNGER-ROSS VOICE HIS OPINIONS ON A SUBJECT MUCH MORE IMPORTANT?
LIKE THE SUBJECT OF MP'S EXPENSES AND THE FACT THAT MP'S WANT TO CHANGE THE SYSTEM TO STOP THEIR CLAIM DETAILS BEING PUBLISHED.
I SUSPECT WE WON'T HEAR A BREATH FROM THAT PATRONISING VOICE OF HIS, AS THE GRAVY TRAIN HE IS RIDING IS ON A LUCRATIVE JOURNEY.
LET'S SHOW HIM HOW BAD VOTING CAN REALLY GET BY BOOTING HIM
Yeah, let's give him something to really gripe about at the next election with 'nil poi' for his pathetic attempts at playing a politician....
He probably claims those expenses himself, they all do.
I wrote to Younger-Ross to ask him if he would attend an all party group on my illness he hasn't even replied. Many people with the same illness have not only had replies their mp's are attending.
Sorry to hear that Olive. It's indicative of these politicians (and councillors!), who promise to truly represent us, but end up just paying lip service.
The only way to get them to listen and act on our behalf, is to constantly harass them. They may not like it, but they need to be reminded, they are there to represent us, and us only (not themselves).
Don't let up.....make them do what they were elected to do.
C'mon Younger-Ross! Defend your offensive pay-rise demands to your public.....the people who put you in office!
In the meantime, you would prefer to deflect such debate with vacuous comments on meaningless song competitions.
Many Lib-Dem cronies and lackeys use this website.....what are their views on such disgusting double-standards?
Remember the days when a large number of our MP's pursued a path in politics to represent their people and stick to their principals. What do we have now? Nothing but self-serving, financial greedy, social-climbing, careerists.
The Yellow buffoon will be on The Politics Show this Sunday spouting inanities on the redundant Euro Song Contest.
Perhaps he is making sub-conscious gripes relating to the voting system in this country?
Either way, he can gripe all he wants.....who really cares about a third rate MP and a third rate Party?
Another embarrassing episode looms...... Enjoy!
Did anyone else see the pathetic 'political' input of Dick Younger Ross on today's Politics Show?
What an embarrassment of an argument to take up.....The Eurovision Song Contest. His protestations about the other countries voting on pure prejudice, were, absolutely pathetic. How dare they vote for countries other than the U.K.! (It's not fair, so let's not play anymore!)
When he sits on Council or Committee meetings does he not vote prejudicially, for Lib Dem councillors, or for people he knows?
Did he complain when many Lib Dem supporters voted to elect him onto Teignbridge, with prejudices?
And what cost this argument? One Hundred and Seventy Three Thousand Pounds. I wait with baited breath for his polemic over the voting topic of MP's pay-rises; especially taking into consideration, the huge sums of money (our money)that this will cost.....making the BBC contribution to Eurovision look like a drop in the ocean. Now that really isn't fair!
What an embarrassing, arrogant, hypocrite this man is.......i certainly won't be voting for him again.
ps-then he sits, being filmed, holding the album cover of Nick Drake's Bryter Layter. What a waste of beautiful music on this vacuous person. I expect it was affectation, an album he probably acquired after reading Q Magazine a few years back.
The BBC does not pay a quarter of the costs of the Eurovision Song Contest!! It (we) pays less than £200K a year to be members of the European Broadcasting Union - of which we were founding members in 1950 (at a conference in Torquay!!)
To put it into context, £200K would get you less than half an episode of EastEnders.
Younger-Ross should be concentrating on more pressing local matters. I.e. culling the pigeons...
Are we to assume that Younger Ross will benefit editorially from the appointment of Tom Scobie as Town and Villages Reporter at the Dawlish Gazette?
It would seem so, when you take into account that Mr Scobie sat on Dawlish Town Council as a Lib Dem, alongside mayor Protheroe (also Lib Dem).
One would hope that Mr Scobie will rise above this cosiness with impartial reporting. After all, is it not the remit of all journalists to print the truth?
THE truth eh?
Now then, if one newspaper describes a group of people as terrorists and another paper describes the same group as freedom fighters who is telling the truth?
If one newspaper states that, say, 50,000 people marched against the War in Iraq and another newspaper says it was 25,000 - which is telling the truth.
I think there are many 'truths', don't you?
Vera
Your response is that of a politician. They too employ the vagaries of 'many truths' to baffle and reflect. Likewise with Dawlish Town Council, who regularly roll out the PR machine to hide the truth.
Ask yourself why other local councils willingly present information on their respective websites, when Dawlish Town Council do all they can to prevent openness.
I am not a politician. The truth, whether you like it or not, is that there are many truths.
Some people believe it is true there is a God. I do not.
Others believe it's true that if they act as a suicide bomber they will immediately go to paradise whereupon 20 or so virgins will be there to greet them. I doubt that you believe that is true - but they do.
This is not to say that Dawlish Town Council could do with being more open about its affairs. I agree with you it could and should. But even then how would you know that what you were being told about was THE truth eh?
You're wrong; truth is a pure concept but there exists within humanity a multitude of self delusions. Your example re suicide bombers is a good example.
Okay, I'll go along with 'truth' being confused with self deceptions. In which case there are indeed ever so many 'truths' then, aren't there?
And that brings us very neatly to just what IS 'the truth'.
Anyone studied philosophy?
There are many beliefs.....but only one truth.
Many bodies who wish to see their corruption go undetected are prone to 'pushing out' various truth's, to confuse and deflect.
Politicians to Councillors operate this way, benefitting from a corrupt system, while accusing those that seek the truth, of being vexatious or disruptive.
Strikes me that Councillors and Politicians have a lot to hide.
And add the Chamber of Trade, to the list.
It's a mix of the same, with Tom the reporter in ALL camps.
Good init! I do hope more people have begun to realise that corruption (MP's and MEP's with their expenses and lower down the scale manipulation of situations to suit) are not just the domain of a benefit claimant.
This thread was started with a statement and a question.
What an embarrassment to Devon politics this buffoon is. How on earth did he get to represent us, in Teignbridge?!
In answer to the question: Apathy of which I am guilty.
Jim: Perhaps you would like to tell us what the Chamber of Trade has done for you to make that comment?
People like Dick Younger Ross and (lower down the pecking order) councillors thrive on the electorates apathy. As long as the public accept the false impression that they can't change anything, then politicians and councillors will abuse the situation.
They certainly don't have altruistic intentions...... their good deeds always come with an invoice.
Talking of invoices, i've heard the staff at the Manor House are on very big salaries. Why is this, for such a tiny, inconsequential parish?
Quality my arse! Can't wait to see the gang being dismantled....starting with dick bungler ross being humbled in the next election.
Viaduct, Roy and all moaners why dont you put up for local Council and see if people vote for you? What would you do to get the votes?
Anon, You still dont get it. When you become a Councillor you lose the right to think for yourself and be independent.