General Discussion
tesco
I have just read that if Tesco went to Sandy Lane it would provide a brand new pitch buildings and equipment at their own expense 200 jobs an enviromently friendly building even a reular bus service.
Surely this would be good for Dawlish.
If you search "Tesco Dawlish" you will find it.
What do others think.
It would also provide car parking for gawd knows how many cars right on top of other people's back gardens (exhust fumes over and over again with people coming and going). It would also be situated right next to the proposed skate park. So more kids and more cars - very clever, NOT. It would also encourage more cars to a residential/leisure area where there are also lots of school students.
Also, it doesn't own the land it wants to build on and Teignbridge Distict Council who do own it ain't selling.
Tesco at Sandy Lane is a dead duck. If you must have a supermarket think Sainsbury at Shutterton bridge.
Tesco would lease the land. Think of the carbon footprint people would save by not going to Exeter or Newton.
I dont know
Tesco would lease it. Think of all the carbon footprint saved by people who now go to Exeter or Newton Tescos.
I dont know anyone who do their main shopping in the Co op because its so expensive.
It would generate 200 jobs that has to be good. Asl new facilities for the football? which are really needed
Why are people so negative about change. I get the free Tescos bus and then have to get a taxi home it still works out cheaper than shopping in Dawlish and there is more selection.
Its only people worried about their houses falling in value who oppose it. Well I live very close to the leisure center and would welcome it. There are a lot of people who would benefit have Cheaper food in Dawlish we are not all on well paid jobs
I am getting a feeling of deja vu with all of this Tesco nonsense.
Forget Tesco at Sandy Lane. If you want a supermarket put your bets on Sainsburys at Shutterton Bridge.
Sainsbury's at Shutterton brilliant, I totally agree with that idea, but it is not within walking distance of much of the town. Tesco at Sandy Lane would be an excellent addition to the towns facilities.
Dawlish does not need, and will not get,two new supermarkets.
For reasons I've explained above Tesco (or any other supermarket for that matter) at Sandy Lane is a non starter.
If you think Sainsbury at Shutterton Bridge is too far out can you think of anywhere else? (other than Sandy Lane)
Sandy Lane is the best place for Tesco. Many people will be able to walk to the Sandy Lane Tesco store including me.
I thought Tesco had already bought the lease on sandy lane.
You don't have to own the land to build on it. Tesco could submit plans to the council to build a store. If the council passed the plans it would be a nice little earner for them as Tesco would have to pay the council an agreed rent.
Bogof seems to know what Dawlish needs or what Dawlish will not get, I wonder if Bogof is a newcomer and think they can tell local people what they realy !!! realy want!!!!
No, I am not a newcomer. Sorry to disappoint you. And even if I was should I not be entitled to an opinion? I think you'll find that Tescos were given short shrift by many residents of Dawlish irrespective of how long they have lived here.
I also think you'll find that many people most definitely do not want Sandy Lane playing fields
built on.
Barton Hill car park was looked at some time ago but dismissed I understand because the site was too small and there would be a problem with the amount of traffic a supermarket would create.
I note that those of you still pushing for Sandy Lane do not appear to take into consideration those others whose back gardens would have a car park adjacent and those children who will be playing nearby.
Tescos have not bought the lease. They have bought an option on the lease that Dawlish Town Football have. It would need agreement from Teigbridge District Council for change of use from a football pitch to anything else. That wouldn't be granted.
Yes, you're right I do know a lot - that's because I've asked a lot of questions and gone to lots of meetings.
Seems you are only worried about a handfull of residents in Sandy Lane Are you one of them) and not looking at the wider picture. 200 new jobs I notice you have ignored that along with the fact Dawlish would have a new pitch etc.
If your so worried about traffic what about cars going to the leisure center.
As over half of Dawlish goes out of town to do their main shopping a new supermarket wherever would be good also people in surrounding villages would use it thus not traveling to far
I don't live near Sandy Lane and there is no comparison at all between the number of cars using the Leisure Centre and the number of cars that would be going in and out of Tesco car park if a Tesco were to be at Sandy Lane.
Also, in terms of jobs. I understand that the Sainsbury scheme involves business units. Thus jobs created at Sainsburys and jobs in the business units. We need employment here before state of the art sports facilities.
Bogof Your last effort needs further explanation. There could be a 100 new business units question is will they be used. We do need State of the Arts sports facilities not enough kids do sport (health issues) its one way of encouraging them, also promotes pride in the town. Dawlish is growing it needs another supermarket surely its better for the enviroment to have one in walking distance or at least a short bus ride from the town center.
We also have a great many holidaymakers once here isnt it preferable that they shop locally rather than having to drive elswhere,
I really believe Dawlish will die unless radical changes are made it as drastically gone downhill in the last 20 years.
Other Devon towns even Teignmouth have far more i.e.art and craft outlets to encourage the hoards of visitors to use the town
Can't you see the irony in Tesco building at Sandy Lane (taking away playing fields) and your statement about children needing to do more sport etc.?
I don't know off hand how many small business units are planned at the Shutterton site along with the big Sainsburys (although like everyone else I could look it up) but the town needs its economy boosting and that is one way of trying to achieve it.
Have heard that Sainsbury's may be submitting planning application within next two months. Unlike Tesco they own the land they want to build on.
Also understand that the plans for the regeneration of the town centre are now out with the public so if you read those you might see how the town centre/tourist economy is planned to be addressed.
It will be interesting to see how many business units Sainsburys are planing.
There are still empty ones for sale and to let on the shutterton industrial estate, so do we realy need more?
Knowall the answer is no. Maybe we should leave Dawlish as it is. Lets face it those who are comfortably off will go and shop where they want, tough for the people who havent got cars on a low wage or pensioners buy hey life isnt fair. The Co op might be expensive but you do get a couple of quid back twice a year
Do you really think that any new supermarket won't provide a bus service (probably free) for the non car owners? Course they will.
as said before .. shopping habits are that people living here will still shop outside of Dawlish, the new store will attract mainly those outside in a catchment area of about 8 miles but ideal for holidaymakers. People living in Plymouth shop in Exeter. I know a family in Newton, they never buy there .. they do all the shopping in Torquay.
Will disagree with you there people will do their food shopping at the closest place. Obviously furniture clothes etc you have to go further afield
I meant the closest place that offers value for money and choice. All the people I know used to shop in Somerfields now go further afield
its gone very quiet on the subject of a supermarket. Suppose that means we arent getting a decent one.
Even Little Exminster has a Tesco Express not as much choice as the bigger Tescos but same prices which is a lot less than the Coop
Is Dawlish in a time warp?
I really dont know why people get so excited about Tesco prices..they are fairly high you know, but I guess if you believe you are buying cheap its ok .. for me Asda beats them hands down.
Think hmm wants us all to use the Cooop
People would shop locally for groceries
Some people have no alternative
I've said, I prefer Asda.. people think Tesco are cheap for some reason, very clever adverts and marketing 'every little helps'.
they are all cheaper with more choice than the Coop only mention Tescos becausethe name was banded about
I'm really sick of these people moaning about tesco in dawlish , it would be brilliant. Not having a supermarket in the area increases the cost of living and isn't good for the environment. People travelling to supermarkets outside the town produces more pollution than large lorries driving into the town and people walking to the store. Dawlish seriously needs this to still be an attractive place to live and a small group of moaning nimbys are trying to ruin this opportunity for the town.
Chris
It doesn't have to be a Tesco and it most certainly doesn't have to be on Sandy Lane playing fields.
Just because things have gone quiet at the moment doesn't mean it won't happen.
Chris agree with you.
Why do the people round here not want change or progress.
People dont seem tolike Tesco maybe because its so big surely thats because they are the most popular
Tesco at Sandy Lane is an ideal solution to the high price town rip off. The shop would be located where the football pitch is, the playing fields are unaffected.
Could be that they are all so rich can afford Co-oop or Cost Cutters, and so boring they dont want a supermarket with a good choice of different foods
How many times have we been round this loop? As reported on many other strands the Sandy Lane option is unworkable. Sainsburys at Shutterton is more of a runner.
Incidentally, interesting reports in todays paper of alleged tesco dirty development dealings up the coast at Seaton.
It isn't only Barwell's opinion. Sandy Lane is not up for development for supermarkets, houses or anything else other than leisure. And if you don't believe me contact Teignbridge District council.
You are flogging a dead horse and it's about time you realised that.
If you want a supermarket think another brand another location.
I don't think Tesco will be coming to sandy lane which is a shame because Dawlish Town football would have benefited by giving up their tatty pitch and moving to a much better one, courtesy of Tesco. I am not a football fan but am told they are doing well in the league and deserve all the help they can get.
Ziggy agree with you.
Its obvious Dawlish is growing and needs a supermarket etc.
People seem to want Dawlish to stay the same as it was 20 years ago
But the supermarket does not have to be, and will not be, at Sandy Lane.
Just because it would have suited the football club doesn't mean it should have happened.
Personally I'm not bothered either way if Tesco chose sandy lane.
I was thinking more about the people who would benefit from the generosity of Tesco.
Yeah but if we want a supermarket within walk distance of much of the town (and most people do) then Sandy Lane is the best location.
It ain't for lease either.
How do I know? Because I ask questions/ go to meetings/read the newspapers etc etc.
If you don't believe me then contact Teignbridge District Council yourselves and ask.
Ziggy I think bogof is a member of the action group called DAD. I have contributed my support of a supermarket on the guest site but they never get printed.
They are anti Tescos mainly and new housing in Dawlish
I found information by googling Tesco for Dawlish Update
WRONG!
Check out the website. DADS very clearly is not about anti supermarkets or housing in Dawlish. It is anti supermarkets or housing or anything else for that matter being built on Sandy Lane Playing Fields that isn't for leisure/sporting purposes.
Get your facts right!
Most of the posts on DAD site are anti any supermarket with a strong dislike for Tesco and expansion.
Ziggy is right go to any supermarket garden center etc weekend bank holidays they are full of shoppers
the reason there is a strong anti Tesco flavour on the DADS website is for the very obvious reason (although apparently not to some) that it was Tesco that wished to build on the playing fields at Sandy Lane.
By recreation I (and others including Teignbridge District council) do not include shopping - especially supermarket shopping.
If you want to define it as a recreation than fine - your choice - but it is not a sport or leisure activity in the sense that Sandy Lane Playing Fields exist for.
But there are already plenty of shops where you can indulge in your 'leisure' activity. In fact you might have another one in the near future, called a supermarket, right here in Dawlish. It just won't be on Sandy Lane Playing Fields. So....there you are, a win/win situation. I'm happy that it isn't on Sandy Lane Playing Fields and you should be happy because you've got a new supermarket.
Nothing is decided yet. A supermarket close to town is what is needed, Thoses green pastures at Sandy Lane wouldnt be affected.
Why dont Dads stand outside the Co.op with pen and paper and ask people what they want.
Not a petition against maybe one for
How can those green pastures at Sandy Lane not be affected if a supermarket gets built there?!
I think you'll find that FOE (Friends of the Earth) have been doing petition in town against supermarket being built at Sandy Lane - people have been falling over themselves to sign it.
Repeat - Teignbridge District Council, who are the landowners, have no intention of that land being used for anything other than leisure or sports purposes. And they don't include shopping in their definition of leisure.
Like I said - I think you'll get your supermarket but not at Sandy Lane.
Okay guys & gals - like I think Bardwell said earlier on we are just going around and around in this supermarket argument so for the time being I'm signing off.
Which is not to say that you may not find other postings by someone using the name 'Bogof'because you may well do. For example, on the Carnival thread there are postings under that name but they were not made by me.
I know we don't have a patent on any names we use so as there are some mischief makers amongst us please be aware that Bogof postings aren't necessarily made by one and the same person.
Just save your fingers until a planning application appears in the local paper - they are published weekly - go have a look at the application and then make yourself heard. You may not have to wait too long.