General Discussion
When the so-called good guys struggle to abide by these idiotic laws then maybe it's time to repeal them and let the police go back to policing actual crime.
The "good guys" label everyone they disagree with as racists and fascists, which are clearly insults, and now they are cheering on their murder.
https://x.com/BasedPaddy/status/1821506696025407991
It will be interesting to see if Ricky Jones gets off lightly given he's one of the good guys.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cz074vyvjzvo
Personally, I don't think speech should be policed. Only actions should be and people should be held accountable for their own actions.
This is fascism.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/08/08/police-arrest-woman-southport-social-media-cheshire/
Unfortunately it is only going to get worse. The Online Safety Act brought in by the previous government will not fully come into effect until 2026, expect free speech to be stifled even more.
@burneside, I agree. Without freedom of speech, freedom of thought, and the freedom to love and hate whom we choose, the country will decline even further. Ironically, such oppressive laws are divisive and foster hatred. The best way to combat racism is through open dialogue.
Don't forget Ricky Jones' 'pre-trial preparation hearing' is in 2 weeks time on 6 September.
No speedy trials for those on the left in Keir Starmer's 2-tier socialist 'justice' system.
Another example of Keir Starmer's two tier policing and two tier justice is the ignoring of the incitement during the riots by Nick Lowles of the ironically-named "Hope not Hate" charity.
Because he is on the left, he can get away with offering an apology.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/08/05/nick-lowles-hope-not-hate-apologise-tweet-acid-attack/
As a kid in the 1960's the phrase 'sticks and stones' was used a lot about hurt feelings. Also if some did annoy you to much then you had the right to flatten their nose a bit.
Sixty odd years later and you can get fast pathed to jail for making a comment online that someone does not like!
I wonder how the last few generations will do when Kier Stalin puts a rifle in their hands and points them towards Europe!!!!!
My parents would say if someone told you to jump off a cliff, would you do it?
People are responsible for their own actions regardless of what they may have heard others say.
No one should be imprisoned for saying something no matter how many people take offence to it or are insulted or incited by it. It's absurd and goes against the fundamental values that all free societies should uphold.
Labour councillor Ricky Jones’s 'pre-trial preparation hearing' tomorrow.
It will be fun to see how long they can drag this out for and still claim there is no 2-tier justice going on under our new socialist government.
Pleaded not guilty. Trial set for January next year. No speedy trials for the left.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cgrj75yx2q0o
I never understood why anyone would plead guilty anyway. You can't give offence, it can only be taken. Similarly with incitement. Lots of things are said figuratively. I can only assume they were naive of the law, threatened with even lengthier sentences, or promised short ones if they admitted their guilt but were then shafted with lengthy ones, or a combination. Many people have accepted cautions in the past without realising it leaves you with a criminal record.
The best way for the left to resolve this dilemma of having to sacrifice their own is to release anyone imprisoned purely for speech immediately. They are political prisoners anyway and we don't have prison room. We have enough real criminals to deal with.
Lucy Connolly gets 2.5 years for not self-censoring herself on Twitter / X. Another political prisoner.
A normal person would not commit a crime just because someone said do it on social media. Only a backward person would, and they shouldn't be out in public without supervision anyway.
They'll be arresting Morrissey next.
As someone else pointed out, the same judge (Judge Melbourne Inman KC) jailed a pro-Palestinian thug who led a knife-wielding mob in an assault on a pub for 20 months.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy94qevnqqzo
Lucy Connolly gets 31 months for an angry tweet that no person in their right mind would pay any attention to.
Two-tier justice in action. Lawfare. Desperate actions of a failing state.
Angry protester, Peter Lynch, who is being falsely portrayed as having been a rioter back in August by the fake news media, is the 1st of Keir Stalin's political prisoners to die in prison.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cpw5w8nl5ezo
What a sad country we have become.
Peter Lynch, in his own words.
https://www.tiktok.com/@liamgalvinfilm/video/7428306792981007648
R.I.P. Peter Lynch, shame on the Labour Party and Stalin 'two tier, free gear' Starmer in my opinion.
Update on Orwellian Britain.
"Southport murder suspect charged with terrorism offence and producing ricin"
But, "the murder of the 3 girls was not being treated as a terrorist incident because no evidence pointing to a terrorist motive had been discovered".
So, what the police farce is saying is you aren't allowed to say the "far right" were right all along, and you still aren't allowed to call the suspect a terrorist.
But if you don't hand over your password or pin to the police when they ask for it, then you are definitely a terrorist.
More of comrade Starmer's two tier justice in action. No prison time for spouting hate online if you are in the left-wing tier.
https://www.wiltshire999s.co.uk/salisbury-tiktoker-fiona-ryan-prison/
“Her vile rhetoric reached a wide audience has caused real harm in the Jewish community, the impact of which she was fully aware of."
If you wondered why crime never gets investigated it's because the police are too busy investigating non-crime incidents.
Three police forces called in to probe Allison Pearson tweet
Committed by a journalist who, of course, doesn't write for the Guardian, BBC or Rodong Sinmun.
Daffron Williams becomes Starmer's latest political prisoner in the Southport coverup. 2 years for speaking his mind on social media.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c89v5e15wd1o
4 days earlier, a paedophile who shared videos of new born babies being raped walks free.
https://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/24726881.oxford-trainee-teacher-shared-baby-rape-clips-walks-free/
Worst UK government in my lifetime. It's like the labour party think it is funny to be totally useless.
USA have now chosen a government for the people.
UK, what the hell is going on? We're headed straight for disaster. Sad times for the UK.
I think they know what they are doing.
We need Trump to tell commie Starmer that he either upholds NATO's core democratic values, which includes freedom of speech, or America is leaving. Or, any country that doesn't uphold those values gets kicked out.
https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/topics_219728.htm
Strong views are lawfully held views whether you agree with them or not - Christopher Surtees-Jones, defence barrister
Many of Starmer's political prisoners were coerced into pleading guilty when they weren't.
We are members of the ECHR, and they should have taken their cases all the way to the supreme court if necessary.
"Article 10 protects your right to hold your own opinions and to express them freely without government interference. This includes the right to express your views aloud (for example through public protest and demonstrations) or through: published articles, books or leaflets. television or radio broadcasting."
We should all stick up for political prisoners and send a message to our authoritarian government that suppression of our rights will not be tolerated. Otherwise, one day they will come for you.
https://www.justgiving.com/crowdfunding/mark-heath-1?utm_term=e7z5y5pWp
Once a tyrannical government has created a climate of fear, it can then start releasing terrorists from prison.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/bluewater-shopping-centre-bomb-plotter-34109599
