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Lynne
Lynne
07 Mar 2022 09:30

Yes! Even more is up for development.

For those of you familiar with the area you may have wondered to yourselves why there is a patch of undeveloped land on the corner opposite the barns at the junction with Secmaton Lane. If you know the area you will know the bit of land that I am talking about.

Well, unless it has been sold recently, it is up for sale, for offers in the region of £675,000 according to this webiste  https://www.rossiterproperty.com/gatehouse-farm-dawlish.

It has planning permission for 8 flats and 7 houses to be built there (planning application 18/01727 refers). 

Just thought to mention it in case the land gets bought by some developer before the link road is built.  In which case, how would the construction vehicles access it? Well, there would only be the one way and that is via the Elm Grove Road area.    

   

Lynne
Lynne
07 Mar 2022 15:57

Just been looking at the planning docs re this development.

Seems Devon County Council Highways department can't see any problems with construction traffic having to use Elm Grove Road. This is what the officer's report (23/9/20) had to say;

"An additional representation has been received objecting to the proposal with concerns regarding additional major development in this area and road safety, particularly with regards to lorries/cars passing two schools and the access on to Exeter Road. The impact on the highway has already been considered above and Devon County Council, as local highway authority, has raised no objections to the proposal subject to the proposed conditions."

 

So there we are then, absolutely no probs with construction traffic using the Elm Grove area in order to access/egress this particular site.

And I'm sure we all agree with that, don't we. (NOT!)

Cassandra
Cassandra
07 Mar 2022 16:50

Probably the same problems as experienced by people on other side of town with building contractors trying to access sites. Last Friday lorry driver delivering to Longlands site by way of Lower Meadow Rise complained about people parking on road making it difficult for him. Um, these people actually live here & so entitled to park in their own street!

 

Daverc
Daverc
08 Mar 2022 08:04

Can't agree Cassandra.  What you say sounds like common sense but I believe it isn't so.  Happy to be corrected if anyone knows better.

Cassandra
Cassandra
08 Mar 2022 18:16

@Daverc:

Which part of the post do you disagree with?

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Daverc
Daverc
09 Mar 2022 09:30

@Cassandra: the last sentence.  AFAIK, householders have no rights to any part of the Queen's Highway (whether it is outside their property or not) except the common right of free passage.  I remember Cllr John Clatworthy saying 'parking on the highway is a privilege not a right'.

Cassandra
Cassandra
09 Mar 2022 09:38

@Daverc:

My understanding is that anyone can park on the road, whether it be outside their own home or not, as long as there are no yellow lines & they are not blocking access to anyone else's property. Maybe someone else knows different?

Lynne
Lynne
09 Mar 2022 09:57

Just asked the question and hit the search button. This is what came up.

Can you park anywhere on a public road?
 
 

As long as your vehicle is taxed and you are not contravening any other traffic laws, you are allowed to park anywhere on a public highway (but not on footpaths/pavements) where it is legal to do so.25 Jan 2022

 

Provided your street isn't governed by residents' parking permits, any member of the public can park there - as long as they are complying with restrictions and not causing obstructions. If your street uses permits, anyone with the right permit can park anywhere in the relevant zone.

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Daverc
Daverc
10 Mar 2022 09:00

I'm sure everyone is fed up with this, so I'll say one thing more and then shut up.  Promise.

Note the 'not causing obstructions' phrase in Lynne's post.

Cassandra's original post seemed to imply that householders must be able to park outside their property even if by doing so they cause an obstruction.

If that was not what you meant then I apologise.

Cassandra
Cassandra
10 Mar 2022 18:35

Without boring anyone further, I always try to avoid causing an obstruction on the highway, others seem able to do that for me quite successfully!

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