General Discussion
There now seems to be a dispute over what exactly it was that Boris Johnson meant when, around about this time last year, he referred to having an 'oven ready deal'.
Thoughts on this matter anyone?
It's irrelevant, what matters is the outcome of the negotiations over the next four days. but as the EU has today hit the panic button to start contingency plans for no agreement being reached, that looks the likely conclusion.
And hasn't Bojo also said something about a No Deal scenario showing a lack of statemanship? (feel sure there's a quote somewhere - if I can find it I'll post it).
Addendum: Found it! Seems that BoJo is saying that if there is No Deal then it will not just be the EU's fault but that of the UK's as well.
“Like you, I’ve looked carefully at no deal, I’ve assessed its consequences both for our country and yours – and yes of course, we could do it, the UK could get through it – but be in no doubt, that outcome would be a failure of statecraft for which we would all be responsible.
We've wasted over four years trying to negotiate with someone who doesn't really want to negotiate. We should've walked in 2016.
and on the subject of quotes - I've also found these.
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The day after we vote to leave we hold all the cards and we can choose the path we want.
- Michael Gove (9 April 2016)
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There will continue to be free trade, and access to the single market.
- Boris Johnson (26 June 2016)
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Getting out of the EU can be quick and easy – the UK holds most of the cards in any negotiation.
- John Redwood (17 July 2016)
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To me, Brexit is easy.
- Nigel Farage (20 September 2016)
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The free trade agreement that we will have to do with the European Union should be one of the easiest in human history.
- Liam Fox (20 July 2017)
My abiding memory of the so-called negotiations is two of the EU negotiators caught on camera gloating that they had turned the UK into a colony:
“We got rid of them. We kicked them out. We finally turned them into a colony, and that was our plan from the first moment.”
The EU has acted in bad faith throughout, it was never possible to conduct meaningful negotiations.
If you believe the EU negotiators were joking then you'll believe anything. Don''t forget arch-Remainer Treason May was PM at the time, she was trying to ensure we left the EU in name only.
Ah, yes!
It's amazing what people can be fooled (tricked?) into believing.....
To repeat myself:
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The day after we vote to leave we hold all the cards and we can choose the path we want.
- Michael Gove (9 April 2016)
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There will continue to be free trade, and access to the single market.
- Boris Johnson (26 June 2016)
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Getting out of the EU can be quick and easy – the UK holds most of the cards in any negotiation.
- John Redwood (17 July 2016)
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To me, Brexit is easy.
- Nigel Farage (20 September 2016)
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The free trade agreement that we will have to do with the European Union should be one of the easiest in human history.
- Liam Fox (20 July 2017)
Returning to the original subject of this thread.
Let's not forget that one Boris Johnson is hardly the epitome of telling the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.
Boris said a short while ago that the country must prepare for the Australian option on January 1st, sounds like he's made up his mind and no deal it is. At bloody last.
The tories are toast.
Ted Heath,Teresa May now Boris Johnson. What was it all about?
Am I allowed to say brexit in name only .
100 odd trucks in Kent at least it wasn't Stukas.
It feels like 2020 was the tornado of incompetence sweeping across a once mighty nation.
We are now in the eye of that tornado and its picked up a lot more crap and speed.
Time to get your supplies in for the forseeable future. Dont and you will regret it, in my opinion.
This deal that everyone is banging on about is so great. It reminds me of my first car. Lack of knowledge, rose tinted glasses and a bullshit salemen only in it for himself. Wow did I regret that purchase. Unlike the new turkey treaty boris wants parliament to signoff on I was able to get rid of that car to another sucker el pronto. We are going to be stuck with this treaty like dog crap stuck to your shoe.