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Paul
Paul
08 Feb 2019 17:26

burneside
burneside
09 Feb 2019 15:17

May has deceived the public from the day she entered No 10, making countless speeches saying everything Leavers wanted to hear but then in private doing exactly the opposite.  She has now delayed the "meangful" vote till the end of February in the hope her Remain-deal will get through parliament in a last minute panic to fend off a no-deal exit.  I sincerely hope her ploy fails and we do leave on March 29th without a deal, just as I intended when I placed my X in the Leave box nearly three years ago.

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Paul
Paul
10 Feb 2019 17:01

EU referendum

"Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union?"

The result was

"Leave the European Union"

The government has promised to implement the result.

 

All we need to do is leave the EU and job done. 

So what's the problem Mrs May / Westminster?

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leatash
leatash
10 Feb 2019 18:41

Most members of the House of Commons are believed to have voted Remain in the EU referendum.

According to a survey of all 650 MPs carried out by the Press Association ahead of the referendum on June 23:

:: 480 MPs said they would be voting Remain, including 184 Conservatives

:: 159 MPs said they would be voting Leave, including 139 Conservatives

:: 11 MPs were undeclared, including four Conservatives

This gives Remain a notional Commons majority of at least 310.

Some 218 Labour MPs said they would vote Remain while just 11 backed Leave.

All eight Liberal Democrat MPs intended to vote Remain, along with all 56 SNP MPs, all three Plaid Cymru MPs, all four Sinn Fein MPs and all three SDLP MPs.

Green MP Caroline Lucas also said she would vote Remain, as did independent MP Sylvia Hermon and the two Ulster Unionist MPs.

The eight DUP MPs said they would be voting to Leave, along with Ukip MP Douglas Carswell.

And this is the problem MP's who voted remain are not interested in the result of the referendum and have no intention of voting for anything but to remain a member of the EU.

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Scapegoat
Scapegoat
11 Feb 2019 20:05

Brexit is a disaster that was illegally promoted by a few self-serving dicks who managed to convince a tiny majority that it was a good idea. Anyone who still shouts project fear is in denial and are selling our childrens future down the river. Be ashamed, be very ashamed!!

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leatash
leatash
12 Feb 2019 00:14

Well only 45 days 22 hours left and it cant come soon enough. And my children will be fine they will have a bright future outside of Europe.

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Paul
Paul
12 Feb 2019 08:53

1970's project fear - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHIidBgwyTA

Nothing changes, same old scare stories then as now.

Planes can't land, 6 months to get through Dover, we'll have no food, etc. No one can really believe this rubbish surely?

 

'Inside Europe 10 Years of Turmoil', an interesting documentary series recently broadcast on the Remainiac Broadcasting Corp (formally known as the BBC) 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0c1rjkc/inside-europe-ten-years-of-turmoil-series-1-1-we-quit

Watch this and you'll see why we have got to get out asap.

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burneside
burneside
12 Feb 2019 10:10

@scapegoat

1.4 million votes is not a tiny majority.  If Remain had won by the same amount you wouldn't be complaining, Leavers would have had to accept the result.  I suggest you do the same.

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Scapegoat
Scapegoat
12 Feb 2019 17:37

I suggest you accept that it was always a fantasy created by Tories to try to hold their party together. This shitstorm can only harm the future of the youths of our country and cause hardship to poor and middle earners. This collective self harm is mindboggling and the only answer from leavers are accept a 4% (yes tiny) majority voted for it so shut up and shouts of project fear. Well, project fear has slowly been becoming reality the closer we get to TM's shafting or worse still, no deal. 

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Margaret Swift
Margaret Swift
12 Feb 2019 19:56

@Scapegoat, based on your evidence and research just how are the youths of our country and the poor and middle earners going to be harmed? 

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Scapegoat
Scapegoat
13 Feb 2019 17:41

I can't believe you asked that considering all the posts made by Lynne on this site alone nevermind the rest of the internet lol Oh yeah, it's all project real.... I mean fear isn't it surprise

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leatash
leatash
13 Feb 2019 18:18

44 days 4hrs 40 mins the clock is ticking.

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leatash
leatash
14 Feb 2019 09:08

Scapegoat could it be that a large percentage of the establishment are remoaners MP's, CEO's of large corporations and owners and editors of the press and they all determined by what ever means to stop us leaving the EU.

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S
S
15 Feb 2019 12:13

If only we had real leaders ... the Government have made a complete mess of it as they didn't have any plan and just thought the EU would say yes to everything "because we are so important" but turns out that isn't the case. At least we'll have blue passports (made in the EU)!

 

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Scapegoat
Scapegoat
17 Feb 2019 20:01

Leatash,seriously? The large percentage of Brexshitters are elitists that have made sure that brexshit increases their wealth. Do you really think it's a coincedence that when the EU start cracking down on Tax avoidence schemes all the richest back brexshit. But you proved me right, all you leavers do is bury your heads in the sand and shout "Fake News"

Hmm, that reminds me of an orange, small hands buffoon cheeky

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leatash
leatash
18 Feb 2019 07:09

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36616028  

Scapegoat this may be of interest to you the folk who voted to leave are far from elitists.

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Scapegoat
Scapegoat
20 Feb 2019 19:22

Sigh...ok. Would one of you Brexiters (notice I'm not using childish name calling like Remoaners, please accept my apology for previous posts triggering me enough to respond with Brexshitters) please explain to me what you expect to gain from leaving the EU?  Why do you feel it's going to make the UK better? 

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majorp
majorp
20 Feb 2019 22:27

Well Scapegoat, the most important thing is we will be in control of ourselves and not having others controlling us for better or worse.

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Scapegoat
Scapegoat
21 Feb 2019 18:18

lololollolololollol Surely you can do better than that little soundbite, it means nothing. I truly hoped for something more coherent than that sad

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majorp
majorp
21 Feb 2019 19:57

Scapegoat doesn't believe in the great ingenuity of the people on this island. I said for better or worse, and I don't believe things can get a lot worse. So the only way forward is up up and away, bring it on and lets stop all this guessing.

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Scapegoat
Scapegoat
22 Feb 2019 23:04

Deflect, yep expected that as well but still no answer to my question. Try again? or you could go for ad hominem attacks instead?  laugh

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b.o.liking
b.o.liking
23 Feb 2019 10:04

I  cannot understand why the the ERG are regarded the rebels in this Brexit  negotiation. When in all truth it is the 400 M.P's 

who lied to get to voted into office and then rolled over, to remain in the E.U.against the will of the people

We have never accepted  rule from another country and I cannot see it starting now.The present M.P.s whatever party

Conservative or Labour should remember the electorate will not forgive or forget thier role in all this.fiasco

Still think my assumption to leave the E.U. which was 32 to the power of 32 was correct.

As far as the monies we are supposed to owe the E.U . it would be fair to argue we owe nothing, due to repaying

America under the lease lend agreement during WWII ( we only paid the last installment in the last 8 years or so)

To free these ungrateful greedy bastards.LEAVE MEANS LEAVE.

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leatash
leatash
23 Feb 2019 10:45

And that has been my argument how can 400 MP's know better than 17,460,217 people who voted to leave.

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majorp
majorp
23 Feb 2019 16:26

Scapegoat, I expecpt to gain from leaving the EU more than it seems you can imagine. There will be changes, of course there will, but lets not forget how much we have paid to the EU since joining, we will not have to do that any more and do you really believe that those that are still in are going to bite off their nose to spite their face. Those that are still in cannot afford to lose us, but when we go just wait and see what they do. All this talk about goods being held up is bullshit, they will be banging on the door begging to let them in. Just wait and see,

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Scapegoat
Scapegoat
24 Feb 2019 13:51

Hmm, still just denial and wishful thinking... rainbows and Unicorns but still my question hasn't been answered frown

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BOO HOO
BOO HOO
24 Feb 2019 13:59

I'd rather have rainbows and unicorns over the sad bunch of remoaning T@%%ER% we currently have in this country.

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Scapegoat
Scapegoat
24 Feb 2019 14:56

Oh, great argument and great usage of an ad-hominem attack. Thanks so much for proving my point, you must be so proud laugh

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majorp
majorp
24 Feb 2019 19:24

Scapegoat, What question would you like answered?

Paul
Paul
26 Feb 2019 09:30

The UK pays in about £10B a year, we get some back but we're told what to do with it.

Would be better to keep our own money and decide what to do with it ourselves.

For the UK there is no net benefit to being in the EU.

I really don't see why we can't have our own money and run our own country.

Lynne
Lynne
26 Feb 2019 18:00

We haven't left the EU yet but see below for how much the outcome of the referendum has already cost us.

 

10 Dec 2018 - Brexit chaos continues this week with no one seeming to have a clue what is going to happen over the coming days, weeks and months. A vote ...
14 Nov 2018 - May struggles as Brexiteer warns she is losing MILLIONS of voters ... Brexit is costing the UK £500 million a week - or £26 billion per annum, ... said: “Two years on from the referendum, we now know that the Brexit vote had ...
29 Sep 2018 - It shows that the UK economy is already 2.5% smaller than it would have been had Remain won the referendum. Public finances have been dented by £26bn a year, more than half of the defence budget. This translates to a penalty of £500m a week, a figure that is growing.
10 Oct 2018 - As Brexit negotiations reach a climax, how is Britain's economy doing? ... That doesnot pull the UK much off the bottom of the G7 league table ...
 
The vote to leave the European Union (EUis leaving a lasting impression on the shape ... Much of the effort in Whitehall so far has been on supporting negotiations, ... Defra lost more than one in three members of staff between 2010 and 2016, but ... We look only at costs incurred ahead of the UK'sformal exit from the EU.
 
23 May 2018 - Mark Carney says the cost of Brexit is '£40bn and counting' ... Mark Carney said the 2016 vote to leave the EU had already knocked 2% off the ... for appearing to back Remain's "Project Fear" campaign and has since become ... British colonies have appear lukewarm to losing access to the much larger EU ...
 

 

 

Web results

30 Sep 2018 - the U.K. is the slowest-growing advanced economy among its peers. “The U.K. hasgrown by 3.1 percent over that period [since 2016].
22 Jun 2018 - The damage to the U.K. economy caused by the vote to leave the European ... That's cost the public finances 23 billion pounds ($30 billion) in lost tax ... “Two years on from thereferendum, we now know that the Brexit vote has ... is a myth: the vote is costing the Treasury 440 million pounds a week, far more ...
 
23 Jun 2018 - Britain has lost US$30 billion in two years, cash the government was hoping to reclaimfrom Europe when it leaves the bloc next March.
 
 
 
 

 

                   
 
 

  

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