Germany tried it with tanks and now they are trying to take over with their banks, be scared Hitler did not succeed, but will Merkel?
“Nation states must today be prepared to give up their sovereignty”, according to German Chancellor Angela Merkel, who told an audience in Berlin that sovereign nation states must not listen to the will of their citizens when it comes to questions of immigration, borders, or even sovereignty.
From Facebook - "STRASBOURG — German Chancellor Angela Merkel on Tuesday endorsed the creation of an EU army, siding with French President Emmanuel Macron whose similar call in recent days drew a fusillade of wrathful tweets from U.S. President Donald Trump." https://www.politico.eu/.../angela-merkel-emmanuel.../ . My comment: with the army stationed in each nation and sovereignty surrendered, we will be a United States of Germany!
No this was Merkel addressing her own people and by all accounts the EU was an idea invented during WW2.
So if the Germans are all so powerful what makes you and other like minded souls think that we will be immune to its power if we leave the EU?
UK plc does not, and will not, exist in a geopolitical/economic vacuum.
It only takes one person to stand up to a bully and then the others will have the courage to stand together and demand their rights are respected or they will leave. You can only persecute people for so long before they fight back and this is what is happening in the EU already, ask the Greeks, Italians, Polish and Hungarians who are worst affected both legally and fiscally. We will join other trading organisations and this will reduce our reliance on the EU, the main thing is Germany will not be pulling our strings and imposing sanctions for non compliance as they are in the other countries.
"It only takes one person to stand up to a bully".
So the UK will stand up to that bully who is presently in the White House?
The EU Commission recently rejected Italy's 2019 budget for breaking EU fiscal rules, the Italian government had to do a climbdown and submit a new budget. A couple of weeks later Macron produced the French budget which similarly breaks the rules, yet is allowed to get away with it. The EU continually states it is a rules based organisation, except when those rules are inconvenient for favoured members. What a rotten stinking club it is.
The difference is Trump only has limited time in power unlike the EU and it's cronies.
And in Hungary and Poland the problem is not just about damage to the rule of law but also about open defiance of legally binding decisions by the European Council or the European Court of Justice.
Part of the problem in getting compliance with EU standards lies in the inevitable reluctance of heads of government to criticise fellow leaders – some day, they reckon, it will come back at them. Not surprisingly, they made treaty provisions for controlling errant member states almost impossible to apply. Article 7 of the current treaty provides for the removal of the voting rights of states in persistent serious breach of EU standards, but it can be applied only by the unanimous vote of the other states.
Hungary and Poland together can block any move against the other.
For now pressure can best be applied through court orders and political pressure from fellow leaders. Germany and other countries are also considering, however, whether to propose new conditions that would tie access to EU funds to a country’s performance on governance and the rule of law, and willingness to implement practical solidarity measures like accepting refugees.
I see May has been telephoning Merkel to plead for concessions in order to get her treasonous deal through parliament. When it comes to these negotiations it is always Merkel calling the shots, never the Dutch, Spanish or any of the other leaders of EU member states. Which just about sums up what the EU is all about.