General Discussion
Germany tried it with tanks and now they are trying to take over with their banks, be scared Hitler did not succeed, but will Merkel?
“Nation states must today be prepared to give up their sovereignty”, according to German Chancellor Angela Merkel, who told an audience in Berlin that sovereign nation states must not listen to the will of their citizens when it comes to questions of immigration, borders, or even sovereignty.
No this wasn’t something Adolf Hitler said many decades ago, this is what German Chancellor Angela Merkel told attendants at an event by the Konrad Adenauer Foundation in Berlin. Merkel has announced she won’t seek re-election in 2021 and it is clear she is attempting to push the globalist agenda to its disturbing conclusion before she stands down.
“In an orderly fashion of course,” Merkel joked, attempting to lighten the mood. But Merkel has always had a tin ear for comedy and she soon launched into a dark speech condemning those in her own party who think Germany should have listened to the will of its citizens and refused to sign the controversial UN migration pact:
“There were [politicians] who believed that they could decide when these agreements are no longer valid because they are representing The People”.
“[But] the people are individuals who are living in a country, they are not a group who define themselves as the [German] people,” she stressed.
Merkel has previously accused critics of the UN Global Compact for Safe and Orderly Migration of not being patriotic, saying “That is not patriotism, because patriotism is when you include others in German interests and accept win-win situations”.
Her words echo recent comments by the deeply unpopular French President Emmanuel Macron who stated in a Remembrance Day speech that “patriotism is the exact opposite of nationalism [because] nationalism is treason.”
The French president’s words were deeply unpopular with the French population and his approval rating nosedived even further after the comments.
Macron, whose lack of leadership is proving unable to deal with growing protests in France, told the Bundestag that France and Germany should be at the center of the emerging New World Order.
“The Franco-German couple [has]the obligation not to let the world slip into chaos and to guide it on the road to peace”.
“Europe must be stronger… and win more sovereignty,” he went on to demand, just like Merkel, that EU member states surrender national sovereignty to Brussels over “foreign affairs, migration, and development” as well as giving “an increasing part of our budgets and even fiscal resources”.
From Facebook - "STRASBOURG — German Chancellor Angela Merkel on Tuesday endorsed the creation of an EU army, siding with French President Emmanuel Macron whose similar call in recent days drew a fusillade of wrathful tweets from U.S. President Donald Trump." https://www.politico.eu/.../angela-merkel-emmanuel.../ . My comment: with the army stationed in each nation and sovereignty surrendered, we will be a United States of Germany!
I think this relates to Trump being in charge of the USA and his isolationism.
Trump's attacks on the EU and on NATO must be music to Putin's ears.
No this was Merkel addressing her own people and by all accounts the EU was an idea invented during WW2.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05/15/the-fourth-reich-is-here---without-a-shot-being-fired/
It was not just deeply offensive, but ironic, that Mr Cameron should last week have evoked the idea of another world war in his latest intelligence-insulting act of hysteria aimed at making us vote to stay in the EU. It is not just that our fathers and grandfathers fought in two world wars to allow Britain the right to continue to rule itself, rather than to be ruled by Germans: Mr Cameron plainly won’t admit that German domination of the EU means it has conquered without war, and signing up to the EU is signing up to the Fourth Reich.
Ask the Greeks if you think I exaggerate: Germany runs Europe without firing a shot. It forces far weaker partners to stay in a currency zone that is crippling them, and uses its economic muscle to dictate immigration and other key policies. And if you believe the Germans won’t take a UK vote to stay in as a signal to continue and intensify their control over the EU, and to make us help pay for its baleful effects, then you aren’t paying attention. It’s not war we should fear, but what the Germans do in peace.
So if the Germans are all so powerful what makes you and other like minded souls think that we will be immune to its power if we leave the EU?
UK plc does not, and will not, exist in a geopolitical/economic vacuum.
It only takes one person to stand up to a bully and then the others will have the courage to stand together and demand their rights are respected or they will leave. You can only persecute people for so long before they fight back and this is what is happening in the EU already, ask the Greeks, Italians, Polish and Hungarians who are worst affected both legally and fiscally. We will join other trading organisations and this will reduce our reliance on the EU, the main thing is Germany will not be pulling our strings and imposing sanctions for non compliance as they are in the other countries.
"It only takes one person to stand up to a bully".
So the UK will stand up to that bully who is presently in the White House?
The EU Commission recently rejected Italy's 2019 budget for breaking EU fiscal rules, the Italian government had to do a climbdown and submit a new budget. A couple of weeks later Macron produced the French budget which similarly breaks the rules, yet is allowed to get away with it. The EU continually states it is a rules based organisation, except when those rules are inconvenient for favoured members. What a rotten stinking club it is.
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/europe/poland-and-hungary-could-threaten-the-eu-more-than-brexit-does-1.3211827
Open defiance
And in Hungary and Poland the problem is not just about damage to the rule of law but also about open defiance of legally binding decisions by the European Council or the European Court of Justice.
Part of the problem in getting compliance with EU standards lies in the inevitable reluctance of heads of government to criticise fellow leaders – some day, they reckon, it will come back at them. Not surprisingly, they made treaty provisions for controlling errant member states almost impossible to apply. Article 7 of the current treaty provides for the removal of the voting rights of states in persistent serious breach of EU standards, but it can be applied only by the unanimous vote of the other states.
Hungary and Poland together can block any move against the other.
For now pressure can best be applied through court orders and political pressure from fellow leaders. Germany and other countries are also considering, however, whether to propose new conditions that would tie access to EU funds to a country’s performance on governance and the rule of law, and willingness to implement practical solidarity measures like accepting refugees.
I see May has been telephoning Merkel to plead for concessions in order to get her treasonous deal through parliament. When it comes to these negotiations it is always Merkel calling the shots, never the Dutch, Spanish or any of the other leaders of EU member states. Which just about sums up what the EU is all about.