General Discussion
Food for Thought
As this country embarks on its Brexit new dawn, here are some thoughts concerning the Lawn. Though they’re two separate subjects, for some there’s a link, and written below you can see what they think. So please carry on reading and you’ll see what they mean on the links twixt our Leaving and our town centre green.
Now it makes sense to some that plans should get made just in case things go pear shaped on the issue of trade. For with roughly 50% of the food on our shelves being grown overseas and not by ourselves, it’s very important for future days that we have enough food to feed the UK. As from the EU to Blighty much food gets imported, it’s really quite crucial this issue gets sorted. If in post Brexit Britain lorries clog up at Calais, then their fresh food for import may start to decay. And it goes without saying there’d be a to-do, if this food that we’ve ordered took time to get through.
Things like oranges, lemons, grapefruits and limes, aren’t easily grown in our temperate clime (and these fruits that we mention, full of vitamin C, for keeping us healthy have proven quite key). They’re grown further south, where it’s sunny, like Spain, unlike dear old Blighty where it’s so full of rain. And melons and mangoes( if they should get to our shore), due to hold ups and tariffs will surely cost more. So with imports delayed by UK Customs en route, might the following thought be one that takes root?
Let’s grow more of our own, let’s get out and dig, let’s show them in Brussels that we don’t give a fig. No! we’ve not gone bananas, we're really quite sane, so bear with use a mo and let us explain.
Now the point that we're making, we hope you can see, concerns our town’s intake of Vitamin C. So let’s all pull together, let’s roll up our sleeves, let’s grow veg on the Lawn and plant fruit bearing trees. No Brussels of course, no Swedes to be seen, no Romaine(ian) lettuce et Non! au French beans. We’ll only grow crops coloured red, white or blue and anything foreign will be promptly pooh poohed (and such cherry picked produce might prove very worthwhile should a growing food crisis occur on this isle.)
Now at this stage in Brexit nothing’s for sure, we might end up in clover or be deep in manure. The results we await, those fruits of their labours, of the government’s talks with our EU neighbours. A peach of a deal might be well worth the money but if things should go pear shaped it won’t be funny. Thus we might find ourselves yet in a bit of a pickle if our imports of food stuffs slow down to a trickle and the price of some produce could go sky high, as we wave to dear neighbours our Brexit “Bye, Bye” (and just imagine the uproar, the hullabaloo, should our food end up rationed as per World War II.)
It’s then our Lawn produce could help keep us in health if, on having left ‘Europe’, we end up with less wealth. Thus our thoughts for the Lawn we hope you’ll think smart, as from our cousins in ‘Europe’ we start to depart.
Although ........on reflection...........and given the amount of rain we've had and how sodden the ground is .....perhaps the Lawn should become a post Brexit paddy field.
Now one more thought has come to me, as I sit with my fruitcake and nice cup of tea, that the Lawn is the place for a bit of a do where those of one mind, should they feel so inclined, can blow bushels of rasperries straight at the EU.
Seems I'm not the only one who has thought that the lawn could be used as a communal allotment. I was just doing some research about the playpark on the lawn saga when I came across these two posts.
Why not just dig the whole of the Lawn up and have allotments and use the wonderful bandstand as shed for tools and while they are at it take down all the trees and put black iron railings around the whole lot, of course I'm joking. Who is going to take care of this play ground, who is going to pick up all the rubbish that would be left, we have enough of a litter problem in this town as it is. And while we are at it we would need an ambulance on stand by. And don't forget the legal signage stating using this area is at your own risk. Then of course the nightly vandals will be swinging around leaving glass bottles broken or otherwise.
Now that would attract me to the lawns, an allotment of my own, what a great idea it never crossed my mind, it would certainly work for me. The added benefits of keeping us oldies fit and healthy with all that digging and we could produce enough veg to feed Dawlish. And of course, the allotment keepers would have the added benefit of eating healthy fresh veg, saving the NHS money and making appointments at the Dr surgery a lot easier... and I am being serious!
I like this thread! Instead of focusing on the downside of Brexit, let’s focus on the exciting possibilities: living in an abandoned motorway services; coming up with a tasty recipe for fox; marrying a 3D-printed rifle; trading sexual favours for insulin, and vice versa - none of it will be dull!
I’m also excited to see how they use plant based materials, or materials harvested from recently deceased pensioners, to make the new blue passports edible in the wake of inevitable food shortages. I'm sure it'll be very innovative!
@burnside
Because life in this country only existed post-1973.
Those were the best yeas of my life, the like I will never see again. Cliff Richard, Tom Jones, Eden Kane, Oh musn't forget The Beatles and I could go on. Still nice to listen to today. On a Sunday evening, radio devon play all the oldies.
And it is precisely because vote Leave won that we are in the situation that we are/are possibly going to be in.
"This week, ministers have lifted the lid on plans for ensuring food, medicines and blood will still be available after exit day next March."
Stockpiles are being made.
But please note that because of their fragile nature, stockpiles of jobs and livelihoods cannot be made.
It’s the vegans I feel sorry for though. What will they do once everyone else has had to become cannibals? Just sit there watching us chew our way through the gammons?
What racist term? What are you stockpiling adequate supplies of Burneside - tins of bully beef?
Hahahaha! Poor old Burneside is offended by the word “gammon”! Does that make you a, wait for it, “snowflake”?
Gammon isn’t a race, it’s a lifestyle choice driven by warm ale...
I guess you’ll also be stockpiling adequate supplies of cans of Bitter.
Wow, you really are offended aren’t you?! Ruddy hell! I mean, literally, ruddy hell...
Hopefully that Gammon Rights Act won’t be repealed when we leave the EU!
If Brexit wasn't enough to cope with in terms of our food supply we have on top of that a potential shortage of home grown goods this year due to 1) the unseasonable snow back in March (killed off a load of new born lambs) and 2) this continuing drought which is causing crops to fail.
However. All is not lost.
Apparently due to the mediterranean climate this summer the grapes have gone made. Bumper harvest. Lots of English vino next year.
Thus whilst we might have a food shortage there should be plenty of wine.
So that's okay then.
Phew!
PS this link should take you to a slightly shorter version of the piece concerning food stockpiling which is in today's i newspaper.
https://www.pressreader.com/uk/i-newspaper/20180727/281878709172201
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And we’ve also got all that delicious chlorinated chicken heading our way from the good ol’ U S of A!
Excuse me, but I fought tooth and nail to get my blue passport back, so I’m going savour every morsel of my barbecued seagull. Hopefully I’ve adequate stockpiles of them to keep me going.
New activity for Dawlish 2019.
Community bbq on the lawn
Bring your own Herrring Gull plus bottle of English vino (whilst stocks last!)
PS Anyone know what swan tastes like....
You vile racist Scapegoat!
Burneside, would Madge get into trouble if she had to resort to killing swans to feed herself and her ever-extending family? Perhaps post-Brexit, Buck House could be converted into a food bank?
And I should think so too, Scapegoat.
In more Brexit good news, I’ve read today that a UK company has been awarded the contract to print and distribute the forthcoming ration books! Well worth raising a glass of warm ale to!
We are so fucked, can't believe the gammons are still so blind to that fact. They would rather jump off a cliff like lemmings than do whats best for the children and grandchildren. Selfish biggoted twunts springs to mind?
Care to provide a link to the ration book story, Mrs C, or is it just more fake news from the Remoaners?
I'm rather pleased that the EU has rejected May's ultra-soft Brexit proposal presented at Cheqeurs the other week, it means we can now get on preparing for a no-deal hard Brexit, which is what we should have been doing since the day after the referendum. The EU has no intention of doing a deal with the UK, and hard Brexit is the only option, it's certainly what I voted for.
Gammonside? Fake news? They’re printing 350 billion ration books!
You don’t want a deal with the EU, yet even Trump realises that he has to! You’re as mad as a box of frogs. And no, that’s also not a racist term...
It's funny how May has been trying to get a deal for two years and failed miserably, but as soon as Trump threatens the EU with tariffs and a trade war, dear old Druncker is on a plane to Washington as fast as it will take him. The truth is, it is the EU that desperately needs Trump and US trade.
Trump has clout. We don't.
And why anyone takes anything that Trump says or agrees to as a 'given' is beyond me.
At any moment he could tell everyone that he mis -spoke or some other such non-sense.
The EU sells around £80 billion more in good and services to us than we sell to them, we are important to the EU. On the other hand, our exports to the EU have declined rapidly over the last 10 years, it's a shrinking market for us, our future is with the wider world.
Let me just correct that for you:
It’s funny how arch-brexiteer David Davis has been trying to get a deal for two years and failed miserably.
The truth is, despite him being an idiot, Trump (more likely his advisors) was far more worried about the retaliatory tariffs, which have already led to him having to bail out mid-West farmers to the tune of $12bn!!
Yet more fake news from Gammonside...
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David Davis has had his hands tied by May and her Remain advisers, she doesn't want to leave the EU, she campaigned for Remain during the referendum campaign. May is a dead woman walking, she even tried to end the parliamentary session a week early because she was terrified a leadership challenge was moments away. After the recess comes to an end in September it will also signal the end of her premiership, and we will get a true Brexit-supporting PM.
Democracy, dear. Democracy! You gammons should know about that by now by your ages...
To think that you want us to go from pig-shagging Cameron to gammon Johnson (via Maybe/Maybenot) without a vote by the GBP. Oh the irony.
You mean just like how Blair handed power over to Brown without a general election? Democracy indeed.
You clearly disagree with that, so you presumably disagree with your own proposition? Talk about putting the simple into simple majority...
That’s because there is no hypocrisy on my part, dear.
Anyway, it’s been drawn to my attention that willy-nilly cannibalism isn’t on! We’re British! No, when the Findus Crispy Pancakes finally run out, we will organise a patriotic lottery as to who we slaughter for meat first, marketed with a catchy slogan. “Gammons! Your Country Needs To Chew!”.
So in the unfortunate instance that we get another Labour government and the PM changes mid-term, you would still demand a general election
be called? Best we get this settled now to save any argument in the future.
I also notice that you haven't posted a link to the ration book story, so I can only assume it was more fake news rubbish from the Remoaners.
1. I’m not a Remoaner! I’ve already stated here that the result of the rreferendum is what it is and there should be no going back on it.
2. Rightly or wrongly, a lot of people place a cross on the voting slip because they like the party leader (or blindly believe what they read in the press and so vote against a party because they dislike the party leader). I genuinely believe that no PM has a mandate until it’s decided by the GBP.
3. Satire isn’t your thing.
4. Hold fire on stockpiling adequate amounts of seagulls, I’ve just read that they’re going to abolish Use By Dates on food...
The Remoaners claims are so bizarre that it's hard to distinguish between what they claim to be reality and what is satire.
If you do a search by typing in Ration Books Brexit Britain you'll find this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CsbEGNNz10
oh and I also found a link saying the ration books will be coloured blue same as the new passports but..........they will be made in France.
Amazing what you can find on the internet.
So no facts, apart from the government is making preparations for a no-deal Brexit, just the the EU Commission has advised member states to do exactly the same.
The video just ramped Project Fear up to a whole new level, and even the title had a question mark after it. Not even the person who made the video could bring themselves to believe it.
Most of those "broken promises" apply only to the transition period, and others are mere conjecture. The article even complains that we will be paying
into the EU till 2064, I think it was rather canny to spread the £40bn settlement over 45 years rather than handing it all in one go, only The Guardian could think
that is a bad move.
And of course, if we leave without a deal all these "broken promises" are off the table, even the £40bn settlement according to some.
As I understand the situation, there is no appetite amongst the majority of MPs of whatever party for a No Deal scenario. Some 60 or so Tory MPs are hard Brexiteers but that is all. I do not see Leave MPs in the Labour party voting for a No Deal which would bring such negative results for their constituents.
So, if the May proposals fall and there is no parlimentary majority for a No Deal, what then?
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I'll speculate that it might be sunny and warm again this coming week.
But just in case not, I'll pack my brolly and some rain proof clothing.
Whether or not others do the same is entirely up to them.
Under May's leadership we will never get to a no-deal situation, she is a Remainer and will cravenly accede to every demand from the EU. That will certainly
bring about a leadership challenge, but even if we do get a PM with a backbone parliament will veto a no-deal and then we are into general election territory
with the prospect a Corbyn government.
Increasingly over the last 40 years parliament has handed over ever more powers to our rulers in Brussels, and has become just a chamber to rubber-stamp
what the EU dictates. We have become a vassal state. Parliament has a mandate to free us from this tyranny, but increasingly looks unlikely to use it.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/22/the-eus-court-is-picking-apart-our-laws/
I remember shortly after the ref, a director of an investment company, telling me it will be the end of the financial prowess as we know it. Well I have not seen any appreciable change since then although there have been some threats that some are going but are still here.
Even if there were a change in the Tory leadership the parliamentary arithmetic would be exactly as it is now.
So I agree (blimey pigs will be flying next!) with B/S that we might well be looking at another GE sometime in the near future. That or another referendum.
In the meantime here is another food for thought link (which,as ever, is entirely up to individuals to read or not).
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/jul/29/no-deal-brexit-food-supply-chain-crisis
Just to prove my earlier point about why people might vote the way they do, Burneside wrote: “with the prospect a Corbyn government.”
If they won the next General Election, it would in fact be a Labour government...
Corbyn is a communist, the Labour Party has been taken over by the far-left group Momentum, and then there's the little matter of all that anti-semitism in the Labour Party.
A Corbyn government would decimate this country.
Care to back that comment up with some facts Burnside because you sound like a Daily Mail headline. Have you actually read the Labour Party manifesto?
Momentum plot to takeover Labour Party
Labour’s anti-Semitism
As for Corbyn being a communist, that is my firmly held opinion.
I ask again, have you read the manifesto and what is far-left communism about it.?
The anti-semite row is bullshit. far more Jewish groups back Corbyn than oppose him. But the media only interview Jewish people that are against him and never Jewish People that support him. I don't expect you to watch this informative video about the IHRA document but I'll post the Youtube link anyway.... https://youtu.be/ttmEQbJxQaA
Here is the latest 'food for thought'
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