General Discussion

Does anyone have any information about the slip road at Splatford split and the A380. That is Haldon Hill/Telegraph Hill?

If not I will update those that maybe interestedat at later date.

Here’s some information:

Lane Configuration:

As you purport to be so good at giving answers to other things, one would have thought you could have done better than that.

I’m sorry. You asked for any information and I provided some. 

I did, but that info is freely available online. I just knew you would be the one to come back with a silly answer in that way (and I am not psychic).

Good for you.

There are more serious happenings going on, and I wondered if anyone else had any information about it. Three authorities were involved, guess who is under the cosh?

@majorp

If you had explained yourself on your original post as to what you had heard about Splatford Split, then there would not have been any need for your unpleasantness towards others who are trying to help.

I was a bit short on what I requested. I should have added the word "NEW" just before the word "INFORMATION". And guess what, the know it all came back with information that is readily available on line to anyone who cares to look.

There is so much more that the know it all could have gleaned from the net, but choose only to provide something that anyone who has driven on that road would know anyway. That is if they pay attention to their driving and read the SIGNS, SIGNS. Oh! that is another topic that is blazing a trail on this site, "SIGNS".

As no one has come back with an answer as to who is under the cosh, then I can only assume that readers do not know anything about what has been going on at the Splatford Split, since work started in 2014.

So why don't you tell us all then.

In the past on many occasions, I have done just that, noton this site I might add. And you know what? some have taken it on as they knew it all along.

Well this time, no one has come forward with any new information, so I will take it that no one does know anything about what is going on at Splatford Split slip road.

I will give it a few more days before I reveal what it is, just in case someone does come forward with some new information.

So, I am so sorry Lynne, you will have to wait a little bit longer.

The plot thickens!

They call it “attention seeking”...

I am not an “attention seeker” as someone has suggested and some agree with, what I am trying to do is to bring to readers attention the corruption that goes on in local politics as well as national politics by providing information as to what really goes on and not what some people think goes on. News papers wouldn’t dare to provide it.

I have always asked questions as to why people want to become involved in politics and have discovered, but not in all cases, there is an ulterior motive. How can anyone vote for those people?

As no one came forward with any new information about Splatford Split slip road, I can only assume that no one had/has any information about it or perhaps some may have knowledge but does not want to share it, I am not in that league.

Now I am sorry that it is a bit drawn out, but I could not get the point over by trying to make it shorter, so here goes.

Splatford Split. Now the bit I was referring too, was not the bit that Diana Mond posted on this site. I will try and demonstrate the corruption that goes on within the corridors of power.

The three authorities involved are Teignbridge, Devon County Council and the Highways Agency. But I have to say at this point that it appears the Highways Agency are clean.

If you are leaving Exeter to go up Telegraph Hill just past the shell station on your left, the road splits. If you keep left that will take you to Newton Abbot, Torquay etc. There are four lanes and the right hand lane has a left hand arrow on the road telling drivers to move over to their left further up the road. Just before that instruction/sign on the road, there is a slip road that would take you (If it was open) to the down carriage way. It is that slip road which is causing so much of a problem and DCC is the one authority that is under the cosh (with the help of Teignbridge HATOC, (Highways and Traffic Orders Committee) because of its closure. Anyone can find out who sits on that committee. That is where thousands of pounds of tax payers money is being wasted by DCC to defend their actions in the High Court where round one has already taken place. And I have to say at this point that the judge selected to hear this case had very little knowledge of traffic law and was so stupid that he passed over papers to the claimant which are damning to DCC. The case goes on.

There has to be a traffic order and there isn’t one. There had to be consultation but there wasn’t any and there had to be a notice of intent but there wasn’t one, although I am told that there was an attempt to post a notice on the down carriage way, but who is going to stop when traffic is doing 60 plus to read it? It would have been far easier and simpler to notify every household affected, by letter of their (DCC) intentions.

A  senior police officer attended the HATOC meeting when this was on the agenda and declared that there has never been an accident at this slip road in the past ten years since its inception, which was what one senior member of a political party claimed there was, (and they will claim anything in order to sway the direction to their way of thinking). There have been many accidents on this section of road but none in the area of this slip road.

Some of you may remember when the slip road at Fingle Glen, Tedburn St Mary, was closed for a very short period and TDC and DDC were both involved in that, at enormous cost to the tax payer. After an inquiry, that slip road remains open. You would have thought that both authorities would have learnt something by now but it appears they haven’t.

DCC claimed they were instructed by the Highways Agency to close the slip road. (whether that was true or not, DCC still had to follow procedures to raise a TRO but they didn’t). I now know it wasn’t true as In another letter from the Highways Agency, they have said they gave no instructions to DCC to close the slip road as it did not affect their operations of improving the carriageway further down the road. That is the bit where the carriageway joins the motorway, or as it is now named Devon ExpressWay. But to me it is still the A38.

There is a lot of politics in this case and plenty of in-fighting between many. And all this is going on whilst both authorities debate more closures of care homes to save money.

By closing this slip road, the people that live on the old Haldon Hill which has to remain open, have to do a 2 mile round trip to get to their home.

Now imagine if the road to Ashcombe was suddenly made one-way without any ones knowledge. But that is exactly what has occurred here with the slip road.

But there was knowledge of it being closed, but they did not want the public to know about it until it was closed and thought that no one would mind it happening, but some did mind and that is why we have arrived at where we are at today. The slip road still remains closed and that is illegal.

I have been careful at this time not to name names, but when I do, I expect many of you will be pleasantly surprised as to who the are, and the reasons they are involved, but by careful searching on the internet (if you know what you are looking for) you may find those that are connected with it, but I doubt whether you will find the reason.

I do hope that I have furnished you all with enough info at this time. There will be more later but not right now. Any questions on what I have set out above, I will try and answer, but I will have to be careful if I can as to how I answer.

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Where is the alleged corruption in this example, and also (whilst we’re at it) in the examples in the other thread?

You keep throwing around the word “corruption”, yet continually fail to state where the corruption is. 

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Might the correct word to be used be something along the lines of maladministration? Or, to use a more technical term,

cock up?

And yes, I have to say I would also like to know more about the 'corruption' allegations and local planning decisions.   

Officers of local authorities are corrupt with their own power and that is relayed on to some members.

I do not disagree, not for one moment, that there may be some dubious goings on within local authorties within the UK. As I have stated before on here, the Rotten Borough section of the satirical magazine Private Eye regularly exposes such things.

However, just because some questionable things happen in some local authorities it does not follow that there is mass corruption everywhere. 

Well Lynne, having read through (which I presume you have) the state of what has happened so far in the Splatford Split slip road case. You do not think there has been any corruption connected with it? Is that correct?

The first question I asked when I started to look into it was,"why did they want to close this slip road?" I will leave it to other readers to provide a substantial reason why they think it should be closed or should be re-opened.

The fact that it is still closed is an illegal act on the part of DCC as I have demostrated, they know it, but who cares outside of the circle of officers who did it.

So why don't you tell us why you think this has happened.

Best not to use any names and to use the word allegedly.

Land is involved which in turn involves money. But don't tell anyone!"£$%$£"!

Is it presently agricultural land? And what do you think it may end up being used for? Housing? Employment? other? 

A great decision there may not have been a serious accident but who in there right mind would want to use it with cars travelling at 70 mph+ down hill, it takes but a few minutes to turn round a little further up the hill a fuss over nothing me thinks.

leatash

The same sort of people that use the Fingle Glen slip road, good drivers. I know some drivers who will not use the slip road opposite Commercial Road, Exeter, they drive all the way up the inner by-pass to the Holloway/South street junction and drive back down again. If you don't teach drivers to do things properly, they cannot teach themselves, they are in a groove. Why do so many people stop at round a bouts? why can't they learn to filter in without having to stop?

Anyway, that is off subject or is it?

Quite right Leatash. I wish though that majorp would stop talking in riddles. 

I thought Diana Mond was clever at working out riddles, but I guess not.

Yes me too Diana, at the risk of talking in riddles myself, I'm of the belief to put up or shut up, say it as it is or not at all!  Otherwise after a while it all gets too tedious and loses any impact, interest or support it may otherwise have had

Thanks Dil. 

Majorp - this isn’t about me, it’s about you and your lack of clarity. 

What do you want clarified?