General Discussion
So what’s it to be then?
Oh don’t stop the carnival
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTJKpV0JJwY
or
The carnival is over
The carnival will continue in one way or another. But it seems the rigmarole about the play park just runs on and on..................
Can we be clear on the whole situation, who will benefit and who in someway or another will be affected by the proprosal going ahead, here are my views, being realistic:
For:
Children will have a larger area to play within, well under 10's anyway.
Adults will have a "safe" place to take thier children to play.
Agaisnt:
I don't personaly feel it will boost trade in the town at all.
Noise created next to the bowling club will cause issues.
Events like the carnival will change significantly.
We will loose another open space within Dawlish.
I predict it will attract anti-social behaviour as most playparks do it the nighttime hours.
Vandalism and graffiti will be subjected to the new playpark.
We already have a drug issue on the lawn, needles found on a daily basis there and at the manor, will this increase, or be a danger.
That's my little contribution, be interesting to see what others can come up with.
So having a £260k mini playpark on The Lawn is going to significantly boost trade for the retailers. Parents are going to flock to Dawlish for this mini miracle. When their under 8's have exhausted themselves playing in the play park the parents will then spend vast amounts of money in the miriad of retail shops that adorn the high street.
Typical Dawlish council with their heads in the sand, and there is planty of that, as to the ACTUAL needs of the Dawlish people and what tourists/visitors would like to see and attract them to Dawlish.
As others have said before. there is a perfectly good playpark by the Manor House that could be extended and modernised for children to play in a safe environment. Where do you think the parents are going to have to park anyway... Barton Hill car park which is equal distance between the current and propsed play park.
My objection overall to this new play park is the one sided approach and ignorance that the town council has used to bulldoze this project through with, a dodgey questionaire and incorrect analysis of the statistics. Only a person with a total lack of arithmetic and common sense could not see this project has been a farce from its inception.
I'd still be interested to see other peoples break downs to what they think are the positives and the negatives of the proprosal.
Just read the two letters. One from the publicity-loving wife of a trickster, and the other so all over the place that anyone would think the writer was a Liberal Democrat. They don’t really help their cause...
So I wonder if those who disagree with any or all of the sentiments expressed in either of those two letters might wish to be more explicit.
In other words, rather than attacking the man (making personal comments about the authors) they attack the ball (the contents of the letters).
@Diana Mond - just because someone is the wife of a magician, does not mean she does not have the entilement to an opinion and a thought to the proprosal, same applies for the councillor who happens to be a lib dem, what i don't understand @Diana Mond that if you don't agree with it, like these two people don't, how do you feel they are not helping thier cause?
Diana Mond - Your post of 18 Oct 2017 I find interesting reading, to quote "publicity-loving wife of a trickster"
This, in fact, is my wife you are refering to and, I would point out that, it is by using the media that attention can be focussed on important issues such as a play park on the lawn.
Hopefully we, the Dawlish residents, may then get true opinions regarding the proposed playpark for the lawn.
Regarding your description of myself as a trickster, according to Merriam Webster's dictionary I could be one of three types of person -
:one who tricks: such as
a: a dishonest person who defrauds others by trickery
b: a person ( such as a stage magician ) skilled in the use of tricks and illusion
c: a cunning or deceptive character appearing in various forms in the folklore of many cultures
These days, now in my senior years,at times I still entertain for various charitable causes - Open Daw,
Memory Cafe, the former Hedley Way Centre to name but a few.
In early December I will be involved in a fundraising event at the Redcliffe Hotel, Paignton in aid of Childrens
Hospice South West & Rowcroft Hospice Torbay.
So which trickster am I, Diana Mond - a,b or c ?
PS:- I cant help noticing the name Diana Mond appearing many times on these discussion pages , probably just
for publicity !!
@Matt, i thought her husband was called tony, he was the last time i spoke to him. i love the trick you've done there with your name.
I have to say I know both Matt and Roma very well and they are kind, loyal and caring people. Who like anyone else are entitled to an opinion and should be respected like anyone else.
"Diana Mond" is the current alias of this contributor, she has posted under countless other names over the years, and has been banned by the webmaster numerous times. For some reason she just can't keep away from this forum.
Thank you for your kind remarks "TheObserver"
As you know Roma was born and bred in Dawlish and is very passionate
about her town and that is why she puts her feelings in writing.
If, by doing this, it focuses public opinion on important issues, in this case
the play park, all to the good.
By the way Diana Mond can you explain why her friendship with Sheila Thomas is so interesting
to you( ?????! ) , your post of 25 Oct 2017
see bottom page 2 today's Gazette.
750 persons have now signed petition against having a children's playpark on the lawn.
There needs to be an external investigation into how this playpark fiasco has been dealt with by the local council. The project smells worse than road kill in the summer sun..obviously only my own opinion, writtten without prejudice, e&e.o, etc, etc...no intention was made to hurt anyone's feelings in posting this opinion, no animals, unicorns, trolls, etc were hurt in the making of this opinion.
Just to be clear with regard to the stance taken by our local council (by which I take it you mean Dawlish Town Council). Although no recorded vote was taken at the time, I understand that support for having a playpark on the lawn was not unanimous.
In other words, some of our town councillors voted against.
Needs an independant investigation as to how it was run! This is ratepayer's money being squandered at a time when essential services being cut to the bone and don't get me started about expenses!
It isn't rate payers money! It is money that has come from developers.
Part of the planning agreement for Sainsbury's to be built was that it should give an amount of money (£200,000 I think it was) for use in the town centre. This money has to be spent within 10 years of the commencement of the building of Sainsbury's. So we are looking at it being spent by 2021/2022. If the money isn't spend by that time then it has to be returned and with interest.
The house builders also have to give money to the District Council. This is known as CIL - Community Infrastructure Levy. As its name implies it is money to be used for infrastrucuture purposes. Dawlish Town Council have agreement from TDC that TDC will provide a certain amount of CIL money towards the costs of the playpark.
So both sets of money have to be used on infrastructure purposes only with the Sainsburys money specifically having to be spent in the town centre (and by a certain time!).