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found this on Eyes of Dawlish

so…….. We've all been busy little bees over the past few weeks, plotting, planning and organising! We all decided that Dawlish needed a massive boost, a lot of cheering up and something to look forward too! its with these thoughts in mind that I have the great pleasure in letting you all know That We have organised Snooky Fest!!!! and we are all ready and set to go on July the 15th 2017!!!! This is so exciting!!

Just a neighbourly suggestion.

Can those of us who know about the above and who know people who live within hearing distance of the Warren Farm site bring to their attention what is being proposed (a music festival) and for when it is being proposed (Sat. 15th July 2017).

Please note I am note making any pro or con comment on whether or not this should take place. I am just wanting people in the near vicinity to be aware of it.  It is then entirely up to them to make alternative arrangements should they wish, and are able, if they do not wish to be at home on 15th July.    

This is what I know about it:

The application is for a licence for up to 3000 people to attend an event on Saturday July 15th at Warren Farm. (The Thursday Car Boot Sale field).

The application is to:- provide the exhibition of films, provision of live music, recorded music, and the performance of dance and the supply of alcohol.

It is being promoted by the Snooky Trust.

Their website describes it as follows… “SnookyFest is an all day and night music festival”  -  11am until 11pm.

There are two stages - one pointing towards the Warren/sea, the other towards the sea/Pinewood Close. 

As it happens three of our Dawlish TDC councillors sit on the licensing committee.  One of whom, Ted Hockin, chairs it.

So if you have any comments you wish to make about what is being proposed (I believe it has to get a temporary event licence) then you could contact one or more of these TDC licensing committee councillors. But do it soon.

Ted Hockin

If you wish to contact the organisers direct then click on this link https://www.snookyfest.org.uk/ as it has a contact us facility.

Also - details of the application are not available on TDC's website (they have just gotten back to me to confirm that). So if anyone wishes to have a look at the application for this music festival it will involve a visit to TDC's offices in Newton Abbot. I understand that you have to make an appointment to see the application. So you will need to contact the licensing department to arrange a viewing. 

Oh and one more thing.

If, like me, you have friends and/or relatives who don't live here but who to all intents and purposes take up semi permanent residence  April - Sept (or even longer) by way of their having their own caravans on the various Warren holiday parks, then perhaps, as I have done, you could forewarn them of this proposed music festival. Up to them then what action, if any, they choose to take in order to avoid the almost inevitable noise and disruption. 

With respect we have excessive noise drunkeness and general loud bad behaviour at the Landsdowne every Friday and Saturday nights. The licensing people seem to think this is Ok. Despite numerous complaints it still goes on.

Living slightly out of town Monty I am not on the receiving end of such disturbances - thankfully. I am sorry you and others have to put up with such behaviour.  

But I (and others) were on the end of excessive musical noise a few years back when a rave took place up at Haldon so I am just thinking about the intrusion of the noise which will emanate from the Warren Farm area especially when so many live so much nearer to that site than the site of the rave at Haldon.  

BOO HOO its a family orientated fun festival music finishing at 11pm,not an alchololic drug fuelled rave, get off your high horse Lynne who put you in charge of policing everybody and everything.I used to find your posts interesting but just lately you are becoming a doom laden busybody !!!

Yes I know it is a family orientated fun festival etc but..........it will be noisy and not everyone will appreciate the noise.

I am not policing anything. I am just trying to  make sure that everyone who will be in its close vicinity knows that it will be happening and that if they do not wish to be subject to the noise that it will generate that they can, if they are able, take avoidance action.

And btw it is because others who know of it have expressed their concerns that I am posting about it and trying to make others aware of it.

So it isn't just me.

As I said on my second post on this thread I am not making any comment on whether or not it should be held. I am assuming that it will be and trying to draw the attention of others to the fact that it will be.  

What they then do with that knowledge is entirely up to them.

Will there be security on the entrance preventing all the underage from brining in alcohol in lemonade bottles?

What about drug sniffer dogs?

lol It's a small local music event using local talent to raise money for a worthy local charity not Glastonbury. Also, I bet it will produce less noise  and problems than the carnival which is another event Dawlish can ill afford to lose.

I'm looking forward to it and will be giving it my full support, especially considering there will be no Music Festival this year which promoted a lot of local talent and brought a lot of people pleasure.

agree @Scapegoat, dawlish is degenerating into fogiedom.  a few more events would be great.

@Lynne. how did you get sight of the temporary event notice and where can the rest of us see it?

Or have you got friends on 'the inside'? 

@Huw - the info I posted about it was sent to me by someone who had gone along to TDC offices at Forde House and taken notes of what was/is being proposed.

The info is not online.

If you or anyone wish to see the application you will need to contact licensing at TDC and then arrange a time to go in. 

There are official notices about the application near Warren Farm as you go along Warren Road.

I don't know if the application is for a temporary event or an application to sell alcohol. It might be both. 

If people wish to make representations about the application then those representations have to be lodged with TDC licensing section by 28th April.

I understand the situation concerning the granting of the licence is as follows: if no representations are made then the licence is automatically granted. However, if representations are made (from police for example, or members of the public) then a meeting of Members of the licensing sub committee will be convened. If such a meeting is convened then its date and who will be on the  committee will be put in the public domain, as will the representations. This committee will convene no later than the end of May and it will be for  those councillors on that committee to decide whether or not to grant the  licence.

All the info above gleaned from various, but totally above board, sources. 

Well, I think that sorts that out.

Dawlish is dying on its ar*e and needs events like this.

I for one am going to volunteer to help out in any way I can.

We really need to get behind events like this. It's not a rave, it's a local event which if given the chance could provide as much to Dawlish as GlasDenbury provides to Denbury :)

I see that Andrew Bulpin (Leadstone Camping) and one other business (not sure if it's come from the business or a rogue individual) have put in representations to prevent a local charity from holding a fund raiser. Bulpin is the Secretary of the Warren Tourism Group and also on the Dawlish Neighbourhood Plan set up. 

Neither live in Dawlish or the Warren! Good job guys - just the kind of people we want having a say in town affairs!

Make your money from the town but prevent anything that would benefit it - like I said GOOD JOB!!!

I believe Andrew is the secretary of Dawlish Warren Tourism group.

I'm 99.9% certain that he has nothing to do with the Dawlish Neighbourhood Plan working party.

Huw, are the representations online? If so can you post a link so that the rest of us can see them please.  

Will Mr Bulpin be tuning away any booking from campers that will go to the Festival.

It's only one day Not a week.

It looks like it's NOT Bulpin idea, so you can't have it.

Perhaps Mr Bulpin is concerned that campers who have booked at his campsite for some peace and quiet might turn themselves away.

Bulpin was part of the 'steering group' if not the 'working party':

https://sites.teignbridge.gov.uk/CHttpHandler.ashx?id=33279&p=0

People live in Dawlish and Dawlish Warren.  We can't just have what's suitable for tourists and retirees.  If they don't like the area and what's going on, don't come again.  It's not a rave, it's a one-day festival.  Buy ear plugs.

For clarity:

We need to distinquish between the group that was set up back in 2011 and the group that was set up in 2015/16..

Remember the concept of Localism? As part of that concept the coalition government pushed for local communities to feed into local development plans how they would like to see their neighbourhood developed.  For neighbourhood read Dawlish for local development plan read Plan Teignbridge.

AB may have had some input into the neighbourhood steering group back in 2011. But he has had no involvement in the latest neighbourhood group set up 18 months or so ago.

Click on this link to see who sits on the latest Neighbourhood Plan group (or whatever it is called) http://www.dawlish.gov.uk/neighbourhoodplan.php 

And anyway what has whether or not he was on a neighbourhood steering group got to do with his lodging a representation?   

Huw, as from your post it seems you have seen the representations can you tell the rest of us how to do the same please.  I was under the impression that if any representations were submitted that they wouldn't be in the public domain until after the deadline for receipt (1st May). But as you have already seen them it would seem that I was incorrect.  

I volunteered to assist with this event and have therefore had sight of them.

I imagine they have been released early due to the Bank Holiday.

Or they've been released to the organisers (which is why you have seen them) but not the public in general?

In which case I'll widen my request.

If anyone reading this knows how everyone else can see the representations please can you post a link so that those wishing to view them can do so.

Thanks.  

Lynne have you gone on the website provided and asked your questions or is it easier to come on here and organise a keyboard witchunt ??  Do you realise how upsetting this is to Caz who is a wonderful caring person , she has devoted all her time and energy into her Charity which is unpaid. She is not an entrepeunor earning vast amounts of money in fact she lives a very simplelife trying to do good for others.The day in question is a Sat normally a changeover day people going and people arriving a 12hour music festival is going to have little impact on campers, in fact the sewage smell will have more impact where Mr Bulpins site is.Why dont you get off the backs of Caz and the volunteers and maybe offer your services as well you never know you might enjoy a bit of light hearted relieve away from your keyboard

Good news -

I have much delight and pleasure in telling all of you that after our hearing today, Teignbridge Council have approved our licence and Snooky Fest is able to go ahead with a premises licence! 🎼 🌻 😘 Snooky fest is to run from 10am to 10pm (Still the same amount of time but just an hour earlier) we have a few points that we have to adhere too, and they have been taken very seriously by us all. We are all so very humbled and grateful to every single one of you, for all of your support over the past few months. It's been a trying old time, in which we have all had to fight so hard for everyone in Dawlish to have a day of sunshine, music and family time, during the tourist season. It's with sincere thanks to all of you that this can now happen. Let's all stand together, to ensure that Snooky Fest is a day where we can all as a town, have a truly wonderful day together and celebrate every reason for us being able to live in such an amazingly beautiful location! So for all of you who have already bought your tickets, THANK YOU! MAKE SURE you take advantage of our Early Bird 2 ticket price now! Tickets are £15 but only until the 15th June. Thereafter the tickets will be £20 and will be limited! www.snookyfest.org.uk Love the Snooky Fest Team Caz, Luke, Rob, Huw & The Snooky Trust Charity smile emoticon:) xxxx

Great news Flo, with the loss of the Dawlish Music Festival this year we really need something that promotes all the local talent and engages locals and tourists alike in what Dawlish can offer :)

For those interested in seeing the 2 x objections and the festival organisers response click on this link and scroll down

https://www.teignbridge.gov.uk/media/4924/reports.pdf

That was all I was asking to have sight of. As it happens this wasn't made available to the general public until earlier this month.  

@roberta - the postings from Flo and Scapegoat have drawn my attention to the posting you made on 30th April. It is the first time i have read it.

I have a right of reply to what you wrote, and here it is. 

Nowhere, but nowhere, I have made any comment whatsover about the persons organising the festival or their reasons for doing so.  Perhaps you could show me where you think I have done this? (oops! sorry forgot. You've since closed your D.com account, haven't you).  

As the organisers had already posted on this thread once before why could they not have done so again in order to answer my question?   

My concern was, and still is, that those who may find the noise from the festival annoying should be made aware of the date and time of the festival etc so that they could take avoidance action if they were able to. 

The front page article in today's Gazette will go some way to achieving that goal and I  also understand that the organsiers have undertaken to notify those living within 500m of Warren Farm about what is planned etc.   

Just what Dawlish needs more of the same please lets hope it's a success and becomes a yearly event and well done Caz.

So glad this is going ahead. Well done to everyone involved.

Only one day to go!