General Discussion
Just get rid of Corbyn anyone would be better than than him the man is a disgrace send him back to the back benches where he belongs.
I will admit I was wrong in supporting him for leader. I think the whole excercise has been damaging, but eagle ...........
Leadsom says she dropped out because she "only" had support from 25% of the parliamentary party. Lessons for Labour, here. #ImWithAngela
I used to like Bradshaw, now I think hes a W**ker and a traitor, dont be suprised if he gets deselected
Holy moly, do we want a credible left wing party or Tory with a smidgen less blue? Angela Eagle came across as a total ****wit in her interview on Sunday.
With the Tories going further to the right every day we neeb someone like Corbyn who really cares about people (hence why he wont stand down) to drag them by the scruff of their necks back to a fairer society and a much more caring society. What we don't need is Blairite Tory-lite apologists ...... imho of course 
A left wing party is all very well but how many seats do you think it would pick up in a GE?
I understand totally its allure to those in economically depressed areas. I understand also its allure to, say, graduates who find themselves up to the eyeballs in tuition fee debt but see no future for themselves. I understand its allure to generation rent. I understand its allure to those who are not in any of the categories I mention above but who just believe in left wing policies.
I was on the wrong end of Thatcherite policies. It politicised me.
Thing is though, I also believe that you have to take the 'centre' with you to get enough votes to win enough seats to form a government. And at the moment I do not see 'centre' voters being interested in left wing policies.
The left has be disenfranchised for years and have stopped voting but that is changing as more and more people are seeing Corbyns honesty and true desire to make society more equal. The media and Blairites try to convince everyone that most of the latest 100, 000 people to join will be joining to vote against Corbyn but that just simply isn't true. The vast majority of the 350, 000 people that have joined Labour are joining to support Corbyn. Again, imvho of course and time will tell.
Another question to consider... why is Corbyn facing more media hate and smearmongering than anyone....ever? Because the the smug elite bullingdon boys and uber rich media moguls etc... are scared their austerity illusion will be destroyed? 
Come a run up to a GE do you in all honesty think that the likes of The Sun, The Mail, The Express, The Times and The Telegraph would urge their readers to vote for left wing policies?
Because I don't.
And as long as the disenfranchised are in a minority I am at a loss to see what appeal left wing policies would have to the majority of voters.
IF 50.01% of voters end up being on the wrong end of capitalism then left wing policies might have a chance of appealing BUT as we don't have proportional representation if the majority of those 50.01% are located heavily in certain areas only then although the number of votes might increase for left wing policies it doesn't follow that the number of seats will.
Bums on seats is what matters.
350,000 Labour members is peanuts. There are millions and millions and millions of voters.
Of course there are millions of voters but if for every person that joined, there are a few thinking they must get round to it and few more that wont go as far as spending money and joining but will vote Labour, the numbers can start adding up. The media is losing power to social media and more people are realising the media is woefully biased.
Now is the time the labour traitors should be supporting him, if he loses a GE then fair enough, remove him. Did you see the Eagle interview? She couldn't even come up with a credible reason to remove him. If I was playing poker with her I would of made a fortune, there were so many "tells" 
If the media (press and broadcasters) are woefully biased what makes you think that those using social media also aren't biased?
Corbyn needs to be removed because he hasn't got he support of the majority of the MPs in the PLP.
And what is it with this word 'traitor' that keeps being used?
Like I said, the numbers of Labour voteres may, may, increase but that does not mean an increase in the number of seats.
Indeed the number of votes cast for Labour could increase but the number of seats in the Commons decrease.
No point messing about, forget useless Corbyn and cry baby Eagle.
The Labour Party should get Len Mccluskey in as leader. Personally I can't stand the bloke, but at least he can get people fired up.
Or they could just call it a day for The Labour Party, I bet most people thought the Labour Party had already disbanded since Corbyn took charge.
@roberta - yes, i know what is going on.
Your point in posting that link is?
I am more and more of the opinion that whatever the outcome of the leadership contest the Labour party, in parliamentary terms, will become marginalised.
As I have already said. The priority of any political party is to get the most bums on seats.
We are presently, and I fear for some to come, effectively a one party state.
Perhaps some entryism into the Conservative Party might be a way forward.............?
one other thing.
I will watch with interest to see how people living in places like the industrial wastelands vote come the next general election. I think two parties will be pitching for their votes - a left leaning Labour Party and a, to the right of the Conservative Party, UKIP.
One end of the political spectrum or the other?
See the irony?
I like Corbyn but I can see he isn't your conventional leader. He is dragging the Labour party kicking and screaming back to its roots and the current crop of MPs don't like it. The have behaved appallingly! We need a left wing leaning opposition party to combat a right wing leaning Government. A party should not just be trying to get into Government, they should have principles that they stick to.
Eagle is less of a leader than Corbyn! I just can't imagine Eagle leading anything. May would eat her alive in PMQs every week.
" A party should not just be trying to get into Government, they should have principles that they stick to.", and in doing so, stay stuck on the opposition benches?
How will that help those whom they claim to represent?
Are you only represented by those in Government then? A strong opposition is there to fight Government policies and there to represent people too.
As I said before should a party change just to get elected?
Well, the difference between government and the opposition is that the government has the power.
An opposition can be as strong as whatever but it will always lose to the government because the government has more MPs.
I don't have a problem whatsoever with a party changing in order to get elected. I see it as a pragmatic thing to do from that party's point of view.
T. May came out with some statements both on Monday and again on Wednesday that I
couldn't believe were coming out of a Conservative PM's mouth. They could have come out of Ed Milliband's mouth.
Now, whether or not anything she said a la Milliband will come to fruition may be another matter. BUT - she has a majority of what? 12 I think it is. She will want to not only win the next GE (whenever that happens) but also to increase her majority. So she has to pitch to them that will always vote Conservative no matter what, plus those that might vote Conservative if they see Conservative policies being of benefit to them.
And yes I am being cynical.
A few names (to mull over) Gordon Brown,Antony Blair all talentless etc etc etc and I suspect wouldn't mind another bash
If they cannot sort out even electing a leader with the rules they made God forbid how could they be trusted to run
a government. Unbelievable.
I can't believe the Cons have had a leadership race, chosen a new leader and put in a new cabinet in less time than the Labour party have even decided who is and isn't allowed to vote or even stand!
Also, £25 to vote is ridiculous for a party of apparently the working people.
If Theresa May does start to address the imbalance in this country and help some of the poorer people then there will be people voting for the Cons that traditionally wouldn't and whatever Labour do they will struggle to get back into Government.
