A shocking and very sad day. At least for 48% of the country.
That's my pension fund ****** up then. Great for the local tourist economy though, as no one will be able to afford Euros.
People genuinely don't know the dire implications of them voting to Leave. God help us (other solace providers are available)
As near as dammit a country equally divided on the issue of EU membership.
I shall watch the consequent social, economic and political developments with interest.
This site has turned into a nasty toxic little place with no monitoring from the @webmaster. I do wonder if what some people on this board actually talk to people in real life in the same way or hide behind their profiles in order that they might spout bile.
Anyway, I guess it's bye bye Europe and bye bye Dawlish.com from me.
Since 1922 the average turn out for a general election is around 64.6% , for this one off vote the turn out was 72% which regardless on what side of the fence people are shows that this vote was more fought over than who we have in our own houses of parliament .
@Paul - Am I correct in thinking that picture that you've posted is of Richard the Lionheart?
Cos if so did you know this about him? (oh the irony.....)
Richard was born in England, where he spent his childhood; before becoming king, however, he lived for most of his adult life in the Duchy of Aquitaine in the southwest of France. Following his accession he spent very little time, perhaps as little as six months, in England; most of his life as king was spent on Crusade, in captivity, or in actively defending his lands in France. Rather than regarding his kingdom as a responsibility requiring his presence as ruler, he has been perceived as preferring to use it merely as a source of revenue to support his armies
My pension fund went down the tubes when Tony Blair came to power. I don't think the use of the f word is appropriate for this forum Mrs C. I believe you need to moderate your language.
The f word is the appropriate word today and we are all adults (I think!)
@flo, I have been moderating at the request of members.
If you are still around, can you please let me know what posts you are refering to?
Ok fair enough. I didn't know if the forum software had any feature that would flag messages to make the monitoring easier for you :-)
I would have thought that the use of good old "Anglo-Saxon" would have been pleasing to those who regard themselves as winners today...
Well guys and gals as a non voter no matter what happens it was always going to change today anyway, had it gone the other way would we now be talking about joining the euro? Who knows! But all we have to do now is get on with the job, let's all take a big deep breath and get on with it like we have always done. Ice cream on the beach anyone?
If you are a woman of a certain age then your pension was ****** long before yesterday by or own Governments of both colours! 100,000 women born after 1950 will soon receive a letter telling them they will NOT get any state pension under the new scheme.
@Margaret Swift - is that anything to do with the eu? (that is a genuine question by the way not me being sarcastic).
MV must surely be talking about private pensions not state pension.
As has been said by others it would be good if we could all try to move on in a positive manner, I know I was an out voter and yes I'm of course happy with the result, it doesn't mean I'm not apprehensive for the future and realise that I could easily have been feeling totally different today. What I would like to see, whether Boris ends up as PM or not, is that the new PM pulls together a group specially designated to agree and negotiate the way out. This should be a group from all areas within the UK, (even Nicola Sturgeon), all political groups labour, tory, Ukip representatives etc. Our referendum decision should be seen for what it is, a non political one, and therefore not necessarily now exercised by one party for their benefit but for the greater good of the future for all of the UK.
The referendum not a political decision? Of course it was!
And I'll bet my bottom dollar (oh that I had some!) that all those saying "Let's move on in a positive manner"and suchlike are
those who voted Leave.
Well at the moment the last thing I feel like doing is moving on in a positive manner. I am p/ed off, and feeling totally disaffected,
alienated, insecure and goodness knows what other feelings along those lines.
Do I feel like helping the Leavers sort out the country?
Like **** I do!
You lot got us into this.
And as far as I am concerned you lot can now sort it out.
Absolutely Lynne, if I could agree more than once I would. Sit back and watch as the sh*t hits the fan. (I probably won't but feel like it)
So do I care right now that the SANGS requirement at the Redrow development isn't in situ when it should be? NO
So do I care right now that the % of Affordable Homes due to be built on the new developments, will be much lower than originally required and that there will be very little, if indeed any, affordable rental homes amongst them. NO.
Oh and gawd knows when that link road will be built and completed as a through road.
Do I care?
The vote was in favour of exiting, but it's now up to the government if they see fit to act on the wishes of the people!
Stop having a go at the webmaster, any of you lot want to take on the role, if not give the person a break.
Morty Vicker or who ever the nasty person is should be the one getting the attention not the webmaster.
Oh and by the way - you know that this time yesterday we had the fifth largest economy in the world well.......it seems that
we now no longer do.
The FTSE 100 lost £122bn in value within minutes of the London Stock Exchange opening on Friday morning. This led to the UK no longer being the fifth biggest economy in the world, according to reports, dropping behind France after the massive fall.
Lynne a democratic decision has been made and i believe a message has been sent by the people telling our goverment how p****d off they are and it has certainly done that. Now if you are at the bottom of the pile whats the worst that can happen a little more s****t comes your way but maybe just maybe your life may improve. Now it will not make one jot off difference to me whatever happens and i honestly believe that little will change the markets will bounce back remember the banking crisis all the doom and gloom and thats all but forgoten go with the flow relax and watch the world go bye.
Yes I agree that a message has been sent to the government saying how p***** off people are. The trouble is the consequnces of that message.
And yes I agree more s**t will come to those who are at the bottom of the pile. The Right wing of the Tory party will take over now. Workers rights? Pah! Affordable homes? Pah! Living wage? Pah! Get the picture? And do you know what? Normally I'd be up in arms over such things but now, right now, as far as I am concerned for all those at the bottom of the pile that voted leave then they can take the consequences. As far as I am concerned it is all they deserve.
And I don't know about the young people in your family but the young people in mine are devastated at the outcome of the referendum. As far as they are concerned, they have had their future well and truly f****d up by this.
Well done. Give yourselves a pat on the back. And how long will those aged 60+ have to live with the consequences of all of this compared to those aged 20+?
If I could emigrate to somewhere in Europe right now - I would.
Like the irony?
Hey Lynne do you want a lift to the airport
If I did Fred I wouldn't be asking you to take me.
Stick your dummy back in, pick your toys up, and carry on with the good work you usually do. Just remember its only a game
Mcjrpc is of course correct. It's my personal pension, and that of millions of others, that's been royally screwed over by those who only voted Leave because of immigration scare stories. I've paid into my pension for over 25 years, and was hoping to enjoy the benefits of my foresight in little over 5 years time. Fat chance now.
Maybe I'll have to start claiming state benefits for the first time in my life...
@Fred - it is not a game. And right now I have no intention whatsoever to carry on with the good work that I usually do (to slightly misquote you).
Copied again from someone on Facebook:
With only 12 hours since you and the other losers were officially informed of the result, how have you been informed that your pension fund as been adversly affected.
Seems your hysterically spouting crap again. Do you honestly believe that any pension fund worth its salt would invest and risk its members funds on the footsie 100.
Seriously the FT100 is just a training ground for rich London idiots with spare cash to play on.
As for Sterling you watch it go through the roof next week when the Euro and the EU starts to implode
And when sterling doesn't, will you come on here and admit you were wrong?
You clearly don't understand how pension funds work. Stick your bigotry up where the sun doesn't shine. "Young London Idiots" indeed. Better that than Old Little Englander Idiots.
You clearly dont understand anything hence why you are still spouting crap on here, when most of the other commenters keep telling you where to go
Sorry Dave Cliffe, too busy enjoying 'Christine and the Queens' playing at Glastonbury.
You'd hate them Dave. Far too French for your liking.
Who are these "most" that you refer to Dave?
@Lynnne, no, I was responding to Mrs C who was implying her pension was ****** up due to today's result when in fact it was ****** up well before today's result.
Margaret Swift. I take it you're referring to me. My personal pension wasn't ***** up before today actually. It is now though.
You stupid bint. Apologies for the f-bomb.
What a wonderful day it has been, probably the best for 43 years. Good night everyone, sweet dreams.
After posting a single comment at 6.37 this morning, I have enjoyed celebrating this historic day, and I do agree with Fred; Mrs C can do one.
Oh Mrs C, you are so uncouth! Get over it and move on, dear.
What on earth is MrsC/MV rabbiting on about now. Hope the men in White coats from that special unit at Wongford dont see her rambleings or the yellow van might be sent out to collect her
Margaret Swift's had her best day in 43 years?? I pity her downtrodden doormat of a husband for her inadvertently calling him down.
@Mrs C, that made me chuckle, particularly as you have had such a crap life, as evidenced in your own post about the 50s, 60s and 70s. In fact, when I read your post I realised that it explained a lot about you.
Well it made me laugh out loud too so why doesn't everybody enjoy the chuckle together and call a brief truce.
Margaret. I've had a great life thanks. Even during those weeks when I've had to "work" for 60 hours. You stupid bint.
Contradicting yourself then? I love it when you call me names as I know for sure I have got under your skin! Keep up the good work.
Irony is clearly wasted on you...
@Lynne, like europe, hate the eu.
So glad we have got rid of that scum 'institution'. Job done.
Oi Juncker, we want a refund.
43 years x 52 weeks x £350,000,000 = £782,600,000,000.
Could do a manned mission to Mars with that.
Can we now stop the squabbling please?
We have had a very heated referendum debate on this site which, as flo and Lynne have both pointed out, has turned nasty at times. The vote is now over and we must all accept and respect the choice others have made whether we agree or not and whether we like it or not. That is democracy.
So lets try to keep it light, stay calm as Gary says and look forward to some constructive, democratic discussion.
I agree webmaster but it is a pity Gary isn't taking heed of his own advice. The whining rumbles on on another thread.
You don't have to read that thread Margaret.
Sadly, you miss the point completely Lynne.
Well perhaps you could explain the point to me then Margaret.
Is Gary Taylor having a breakdown?
He's sure not looking to get any votes in the future then
Except Mcjrpc, nobody in HMG expected it to work. (Great clip BTW)
Ben Bradshaw on Sunday Politics BBC SW an hour ago: "Where is the plan? You've led the country up the garden path, now you'll be leading them back down again... Where is the plan?"
I'll leave others to fill in the response from A-MM...
Robert Harris - today's Sunday Times:
So Burneside, Project Fear turns into Project Reality.
Good luck picking up the pieces - over and out.
We won you lost, get over it!
It will take our country's economy and place in the world absolute decades to get over it. By which time most of those who voted out will be long dead, whilst the young people of our country are left trying to put back together the broken nation left behind by those who voted out for wholly the wrong reasons.
We won, you lost, get over it!