General Discussion

Questions need to be asked.  Why did braking Wind not get the contract at The Warren Toilet site? Who did get it?  Does Teignbridge not care that a local trader not getting the contract

Well, unless all details concerning what TDC were looking for in deciding to whom to award the tender are made public we shall never know why they decided what they decided, will we?

Was having to be a local trader part of the tender criteria?

I imagine TDC had to award the tender to the business they felt best met their requirements. Their not awarding it to a local business possibly resulting in the local business being detrimentally affected would not have come into their decision making. Should it have done? 

We shall all soon enough find out who did get the tender. 

(and just in case anyone is interested I am also gutted that Bob didn't get awarded the tender) 

I've agreed with Linda and Lynne's posts. I can only assume that the ultimate consideration (and one that authorities are legally bound by) in all tendering processes is that the lowest/highest bid that meets the requirements of the ITT will be awarded the tender. 

The question is did Breaking Wind put in a tender if he did then somebody offered more if he didn't then thats how it is. But of course their are always two sides to every story did Teignbridge follow the tendering process correctly or is it a mates deal, its up to someone to do a little digging.

@Lindapetherick

Surely, as a DTC Councillor, you are in the best position to obtain answers to the questions posed.

Who did get it then?

Don't know Flo.

But for what it's worth (and with Bob Bowen's permission) this was my plea for the matter to be examined in more detail:

All,

Well given that that the TDC procurement officer told me that the contract etc was presently being sorted out  with the successful tenderer and it was hoped that all would be sorted by the end of the summer, unless that successful tenderer has subsequently dropped out then yes, I would imagine that it is too late for this matter to be given further consideration.

Blimey what sort of council would it be if, having award a tender to someone to provide whatever kind of service, it then turned around to that tenderer and said "Sorry old chum, can't go ahead with it after all. You might have fulfilled all our criteria and offered the best value for money etc etc but..........local people and local councillors don't want us to award you the contract they want it to go to someone else instead".

Is that really what is being suggested here? I mean, like, really?     

I understand from Teignbridge that (as one would hope) the tender process has to be fair, open and transparent. Tthe officers assessing the tenders will have had an objective scoring matrix to use and that it would not be fair to all tenderers if local councillors tried to influence the result.

I have also learned that the tender will not be re-evaluated but it will be the Portfolio Holder for Assets that will make the final decision.  The Chairman and Vice Chairman of the Overview and Scrutiny Committee together with Local ward members for Dawlish Central and North East will be consulted on the decision.  Members will be advised that the details of the tenders and the name of the preferred tenderer are to remain confidential.

Hope that helps.

Gary Taylor

If you don't know who won it how do you know it's not another local business?  Or did you think Braking Wind was a shoe-in?  Complaining about the outcome now has a whiff of cronyism about it. 

@Netiquette,

Bob Bowen came to the Manor House to ask councillors for their help. Would anyone not wish to support a local business in any way they could?

Gary Taylor

Support or interfere?  Sounds like TDC has politely taught you a lesson on the difference!

I scan read the TDC online info concerning tendering. I was getting bored with it all and like I said I scan read it but I'm pretty certain it said, somewhere, that unsuccessful tenderers would not only be informed that they were unsuccessful but also why.

So if I am correct in that, Bob B should have been informed why his tender was unsuccessful (which doesn't help him at all I know, but nontheless it should be a pointer as to why he did not succeed). Up to him I guess whether or not he makes that info public.

I imagine the name of the preferred tenderer will soon be in the public domain once all the contract details have been thrashed out between said tenderer and TDC.     

May you never have a puncture, Netiquette.

Gary Taylor

Teignbridge District Council will consider the tendering process based primarily on an economic basis. As if any factor other than economics comes into it.

They cannot be seen to be postively discriminating in favour of locals. agree with it or not that's part of being in an open market. It doesn't care much for local community.

The same logic could be applied to the new developments, National housing firms have more economic clout than local builders, community housing associations and community land trusts.

Then again if Bob Bowen's business grew exponentially he could tender bids for new business ventures elsewhere in the country, and locals elsewhere might complain about an outsider from Devon.

It's a competitive market, don't expect it to be fair.

I know a local business that applied for the tender and didn't even get short listed.