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ThomasTheRymer
ThomasTheRymer
17 May 2015 18:11

Does anyone know who owns 13 Weech Rd, the derelict rectory which is a listed building. Hw come it's been left to fall into such disrepair . Despite several interventions by the heritage people. It is a disgrace. The owner should have been made to repair it or the council should have stepped in and billed the owner for repairs. I presume the owner is waiting for it to fall down, so they can build on it. In my modest listed building I can't even put a sattalite dish up.

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leatash
leatash
17 May 2015 18:46

Its been like that as long as i can remember i believe it is owned by developers who proposed to tear it down and build flats planning was refused because of the listing and so it stands and rots. I forget how long ago all this took place but it's probably 20 or 25 years ago it will eventualy fall down and i presume planning will then be granted.

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stephen15
stephen15
17 May 2015 19:42

@Leatash. Go to google.co.uk and go to knowhere.co.uk.Tells you all about it. 

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G8post
G8post
18 May 2015 07:15
leatash
leatash
18 May 2015 09:54

My memory isn't failing me then this has been going on since 1988.

Bardwell
Bardwell
18 May 2015 10:46

I think a couple of years ago workmen were on the roof stripping off the remaining tiles, leaving it open to the weather.

 

SoulofDawlish
SoulofDawlish
18 May 2015 14:04

I wholeheartedly agree with you all. It seems a complete disgrace that a building with the potential to be at least partially saved to create (say) affordable homes or homes for the elderly is being so badly neglected. Such a 'brownfield' project would not only be 'highly sustainable' (being close to the town centre, transport links and local amenities) the extra homes provided would help keep the pressure off our countryside (beyond the strategic allocations already within the local plan) and help restore civic pride in this area of our town.

 

A matter for the first agenda of the new Dawlish Town Council, perhaps?

 

Gary Taylor

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OurSoul
OurSoul
20 May 2015 07:14

Yes, maybe the new Town Council could purchase the building. And, you know, convert it into a Salvation Army centre...? 

 

 

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SoulofDawlish
SoulofDawlish
20 May 2015 11:56

Probably not the kind of salvation that contributors would wish for  - but better than the alternative.

 

Gary Taylor 

OurSoul
OurSoul
20 May 2015 12:06

The recent history of Tory/LibDem Dawlish council mismanagement of our money suggests that buying it wouldn't be a better alternative...

SoulofDawlish
SoulofDawlish
11 Jun 2015 17:04

And this just in...

 

http://gis.teignbridge.gov.uk/TeignbridgePlanningOnline/Results.aspx?Type=Application&Refval=15/01204/FUL

 

The Design and Access Statement and the Statement of Significance make interesting reads... plans for the site will come before DTC Planning Committee on Thursday 2nd July, kick-off 7pm.

 

Gary Taylor

Lynne
Lynne
11 Jun 2015 17:26
Lynne
Lynne
12 Jun 2015 09:26

Just had a quck look at some of the planning docs. Seems there are two owners of the site

1. Sterling Property Ltd

and

2. Safebrite Ltd

Anyone have any info on these two companies? 

stephen15
stephen15
12 Jun 2015 10:09

@Lynne. Cheated by looking on Google. Sterling Property ltd. apparently operate in the North West only. as for Safebrite ltd. their registered office is in Greenford Essex. Unless I missed something, which is probable.

Netiquette
Netiquette
12 Jun 2015 14:13

There's a Safebrite Properties Ltd at the same address as Sterling Property Develpment Ltd  - One American Square Crosswall, London EC3N 2SG.   Thry share the same Company Secretary.    Safebrite is down as a non-trading company with no asssets, Sterling Property Developments Ltd has £12 million in assets and £12 million in liabilities, but with £5 million cash in the bank, suggest gross liabilities of £19 million. Net worth £3 million.

Lynne
Lynne
25 Jun 2015 11:09
Lynne
Lynne
03 Jul 2015 17:49

Dawlish town council's planning committee met last night (2nd July). Here's what the members of that committee think about this planning app.

 

PARISH: DAWLISH WARD: Dawlish South West
APPLICATION REF: 15/01204/FUL OFFICER: Donna Crabtree
DECISION LEVEL: DEL
LOCATION: 13 Weech Road 
PROPOSAL: Conversion of existing building into three dwellings and erection of six new
dwellings
APPLICANT Mr J Farrell Sterling Property Developments 5th Floor 
One American Square 15 Crosswell London EC3N 2SG 
AGENT: Mr S Christmas Narracotts Architects 2 Montpellier Terrace Torquay Devon
TQ1 1BL 
Comment: RESOLVED by the majority of Members present and voting that this Council recommends
refusal of this application for the following reasons:
1. Overdevelopment of the site
2. Traffic and Highways issues including access and parking
3. Impingement on amenity space
Members wished to add that they do welcome development at this site and would support an

application if the Highways issues can be mitigated.  

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Cassandra
Cassandra
03 Jul 2015 20:44

The Highways issues are the same for Weech Road as they are for Badlake Hill - access is just not good enough at the turning by the Swan pub. Have lost track of the number of near misses I've seen plus pedestrians being scraped by wing mirrors, etc. It's difficult to know how this could be resolved.

Netiquette
Netiquette
10 Jul 2015 12:38

Gary Taylor/Soul of Dawlish you seemed to support approval for development, were you outvoted at the planning meeting? No one will want it as one large dwelling, there isn't any land with it.  Seems like it's a going to be stalemate for decades to come unless it's got commercial use potential.   Any suggestions?

    

SoulofDawlish
SoulofDawlish
10 Jul 2015 20:33

@Netiquette,

 

Yes, I am in favour of the development of this long-neglected site - however while the application had a lot to recommend it (including the retention of the more salvageable parts of the buildings) the majority view was that the scheme amounted to over-development, with a knock-on effect on amenity. Having spoken to neighbours on all sides, most seem to be generally very supportive of development (witness also the on-line comments) provided that parking, access and highways issues can be improved / mitigated. 

 

The matter is likely to go to TDC Planning Committee for a decision so it will be interesting to see how much weight is given to the DTC Planning Committee resolution and to the Dawlish residents and DCC Highway Officer comments. If there is a refusal on grounds per the above (but not on grounds about partial demolition of a listed building) then I believe an improved scheme may well come forward in response.

 

Gary Taylor

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