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This should stir up a few people.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfEo_TNllk4&feature=youtu.be
Richard North eh? The climate change denying blogger who proudly calls certain people "jungle bunnies"??? What an unpleasant individual.
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/georgemonbiot/2010/dec/17/richard-north-blog
A typical UKIP supporter I'd imagine.
He certainly puts forward a plausible scenario for managing our exit from the EU - should we ever get a referendum to make that choice,
As we get closer to the general election next year. The eu and our own governement seem to be doing everything they can to get more people voting UKIP. I believe only an ignorant, self absorbed person would dismiss UKIP out of hand without investigating first.
It's a good job that I've investigated that filthy little political party then, isn't it ALLEMS?
Goodness me excellent comment from a foul mouth person, does that reflect on conservative labour or lib dem views or you as a supporterof one of them?
@Judith Chalmers - i believe your own comment (18:04hrs) speaks volumes about yourself, so sad.
Foul-mouthed comment? How? Stop trying to deflect, USER4549.
ALLEMS, what does it say about me? This thread isn't about me, it's about the odious drivel from a man who calls certain people "jungle bunnies".
JC. A bit like you with your " filthy little political party" the sad part is your massive chip on your shoulder.
JC: I t looks like even the Governernment are taking the UKIP view re the EU.
We'll never fully control our borders while we're in the EU says Hammond: Foreign Secretary admits Britain's desire to avoid 'destabilising movement' of migrants is incompatible with membership of EU
- Foreign Secretary admits Britain will never have border control in the EU
- Philip Hammond warned that the EU needs to reform or Britain will leave
- Germany should realise UK will leave unless we get new powers, he said
- Only 20 per cent think the PM will be able to strike a deal with EU leaders
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2835423/We-ll-never-fully-control-borders-EU-says-Hammond-Foreign-Secretary-admits-Britain-s-desire-avoid-destabilising-movement-migrants-incompatible-membership-EU.html#ixzz3J7Q7xGor
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User4549. I'll ask again, please tell us all where I've been foul-mouthed? Thanks.
The only thing I have a chip on my shoulder about is those blinkered people who blame foreigners ("jungle bunnies") for the woes of this country. Yes I most certainly do have a chip on my shoulder about the likes of you.
Wow you really are pathetic. Do you have aprobelm looking over your previous posts or are you that blinkered, my comment referred to the following
" filthy little political party"
How is that foul-mouthed? Goodness gracious me!
Why do you insist on trying to bully me into silence with your name-calling of me? You need to look closer to home with your "chip on your shoulder" comments.
Some filth from the mouths of UKIP grandees:
Is that your own list Mrs C, or a copy and paste job from your favourite rag? You have probably just unintentionally recruited a few more UKIP members by publishing it.
And anyway, the EU in/out argument is not just about UKIP, plenty on the left want out too.
Copy and paste Burneside. If those filthy words act to recruit people to UKIP, then case closed about the party and it's supporters!
If we look hard enough on google we can find things just the same said by all parties over the years, most papers pick and choose what they wish to prinrt to cause as much uproar as possible.
GOOD OLD ENOCH
Righty-ho User4549. Please show us these examples from other political parties (other than the BNP or National Front) who have said the same things as each and every one of those 10 examples of UKIP filth. Good old Enoch Powell eh? Sums you up
Some of those points are entirely open to debate, such as overseas aid and immigration. It seems to me that it is you who is trying to close down the debate by your constant reference "filthy" words.
Not trying to close down the debate Burneside, I just refuse to be bowed by User4549 and your own personal name-calling. User4549 started the discussion saying that he wanted to stir it up - well he has done. Now I'm asking him to back up his assertion that the disgusting viewpoints of UKIP grandees has already been said by other parties - so come on then User4549, you can't still be Googling!
The Labour Party in government over England from 1997 to 2010 was both racist and anti-English.
Scottish presence and interests in those governments were vastly over-represented and indulged. There was a Secretary of State for Scotland (and for Wales and for Northern Ireland) but no equivalent to represent England’s interests. There was a Scottish Affairs Committee (and for Welsh and for Northern Ireland affairs) but no equivalent for English affairs. [There is the British Labour Party and Scottish Labour Party and Welsh Labour Party, but no English Labour Party.]
Powers were devolved to Scotland (and Wales and Northern Ireland) but not in England. The Labour Government tried to inflict regional assemblies but, apart from London, was unsuccessful. England as a nation was not consulted but denied a collective say on this issue, whilst the minor nations accounting in total for merely 16% of the UK’s population were given two referendums each.
University tuition fees were inflicted on English students but not on Scottish students whether studying in Scotland or England. English students pay higher tuition fees than EU students.
Social Care costs are imposed in England but supplied free in Scotland. Prescription charges are levied in England, but prescribed medicine in Scotland is free.
No specific provision was made for in England for any one to record and have counted and published their ethnic identity as English in either the 2001 Census or the 2011 Census. In marked contrast, a separate tick box in the ‘White’ category was provided in Scotland for Scots to record THEIR ethnic identity as Scottish, and over 80% of them did in both the 2001 and 2011 Censuses.
Given that ‘race’, more precisely ‘colour’ and ‘nationality’ and ‘ethnic or national origins’ are specified in Section 9 of the Equality Act 2010 as protected characteristics, it may be reasonably concluded that not only did those Labour Governments hypocritically operate double standards, they breached their own statute law on an industrial scale in treating the English people less favourably.
In short, the Labour Party is racist and anti-English. England is best governed by the English rather than the stooges put up by the Labour Party Mr Cameron and his Coalition cronies may choose to overlook these offences, but many of us English do not!
Against my better judgement I am going to post on this thread. Not to enter into the debate but to ask that when you (that's all of you) cut and paste or quote from something or similar that you give the rest of us the link to where it is you got it from.
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So User4549, are you confirming that you're incapable of substantiating your previous statement that representatives of other political parties have said the same things as each of the 10 examples of UKIP filth that I listed in the post that I copy and pasted? Yes? No?
Enough of yur filth and bigoted comments, so i leave this post tp get on with life, put you own meaning on my reasoning which I am sure you will so enjoy making up
As much as I thought User4549, only UKIP grandees and their supporters would make such disgusting comments. You clearly agree with them seeing as you don't believe that those comments are filth. You started this thread saying that you wanted to stir things up, but when that happens and someone digs a bit deeper, you walk away whistling innocently...
At your grandchildren's school nativity play this Christmas, try and resist the urge to shout 'hear, hear' when the innkeeper says 'We're full'...
Burnside, just a question JC mentions nativity plays, are they still allowed?, or banned because they may upset the muslims?
User4549 you already know the answer to your own question.
Why would a Muslim object to the celebration of the birth of the other JC? Surely you know that in Islam, he's a prophet and his birth is described in the Koran?
JC: My question was to burnside but you just cannot help yourself, you have to butt in, many schools have banned the nativity play, I was curiouse to know whether it applied nationwide and normal practice.
I have to butt in? It's a forum. For discussions. Or for stirring up, as you put it.
Thanks for the link though. And in other seven year old news...
Nothing changes. People have discussions on subjects that they're passionate about. We normally end up agreeing to disagree but at least we make a contribution to the debate. However Elvis, what's changed since you stopped posting is that no-one takes the *** in order to try to get a cheap laugh.
Webmaster. Are you saying that Elvis didn't make the infamous "probably putting on her lipstick" comment about that poor lady? Wow. Just wow.
As far as I am aware, that comment was made before the seriousness of the accident was known. You are implying that Elvis said those comments knowing the lady had died, which is not true.
You are quite right webmaster, I looked back in in the vain hope, that you would have curbed the nasty personal vitriolic attacks that go on here in the guise of debate. Sadly it isn't so.
I rest my case.
So, Mrs C, I am still waiting for your response regarding the name-calling accusation. Care to expand on that?
Webmaster, I'm implying that he never apologised for his remarks about her, didn't edit them or delete them. Elvis you never contributed to any debate, you just tried to take the piss with your misogyny - and now you're laughably trying to take the moral high ground. Just looked back eh? Of course you have.
Sorry Burneside for the delay, been busy. I expect that you and your family members will all agree that these possibly could be construed as personal name-calling of me by you. I can't be bothered to trawl through all your posts, and of course there's your personal name-calling of certain town councillors, particularly before you were outed as being related to another councillor but hadn't declared that interest. Don't forget to press "Agree" like good little sheep.
You construe those examples as name-calling? I call them factual statements, and mean every word I said.