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neilh
neilh
03 Dec 2013 19:32

If you'd like to see a parliamentary debate on why people are going hungry in this country when so much food is wasted each year by households and supermarkets then please join this campaign: http://chn.ge/1avsBiw

 

 

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jools88
jools88
03 Dec 2013 19:38

Because they have not got any food Simple crying

1 Agree
neilh
neilh
03 Dec 2013 20:01

So perhaps you'd like to change that?  Sign the petition.

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jools88
jools88
03 Dec 2013 20:22

No . Why are they going hungry with all the handouts people get it i just do not understand.

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roberta
roberta
03 Dec 2013 20:24

signed

Judith Chalmers
Judith Chalmers
03 Dec 2013 20:28

NEILH: I've read the link and have been moved to sign the petition. I'm not sure it'll make any difference, but at least we can hope. 

jools88
jools88
03 Dec 2013 20:30

Why are people like this ? My wife and i work . My mum and dad worked. My nan and gramp worked . I just do not understand why this is happening. Why do people get in this state ?????????????????

1 Agree
jools88
jools88
03 Dec 2013 20:35

In the words of Desmond Tutu: "There comes a point where we need to stop falling for this rubbish.

Judith Chalmers
Judith Chalmers
03 Dec 2013 20:49
As Desmond Tutu actually said – "There comes a point where we need to stop just pulling people out of the river. We need to go upstream and find out why they’re falling in."
 
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jools88
jools88
03 Dec 2013 21:04

What ever.....................................

 

neilh
neilh
03 Dec 2013 21:11

@jools88 - yes you and I are lucky.  Our grandparents have worked, our parents have worked, we have worked but have some plain old-fashioned sympathy for those who are less lucky and caught in the poverty trap for whatever reason.  Check this out:

 

UK Foodbanks

13 million people live below the poverty line in the UK.

Every day people in the UK go hungry for reasons ranging from redundancy to receiving an unexpected bill on a low income. Trussell Trust foodbanks provide a minimum of three days emergency food and support to people experiencing crisis in the UK.

In 2012-13 foodbanks fed 346,992 people nationwide. Of those helped, 126,889 were children. Rising costs of food and fuel combined with static income, high unemployment and changes to benefits are causing more and more people to come to foodbanks for help.

The Trussell Trust partners with churches and communities to open new foodbanks nationwide. With almost 400 foodbanks currently launched, our goal is for every town to have one.

http://www.trusselltrust.org/foodbank-projects

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neilh
neilh
03 Dec 2013 21:14

And we're not immune in Dawlish - see this from Dawlish Gazette in October:

 

http://www.dawlishnewspapers.co.uk/news.cfm?id=35314&headline=Food%20bank%20helps%20100%20families

jools88
jools88
03 Dec 2013 21:18

I ask again Why is it like this ? Pull your self together ..............

 

Sob story i think . if you can not cope should you be on this planet ?

Judith Chalmers
Judith Chalmers
03 Dec 2013 21:32

But 13 million people are below the poverty line. Sadly, people in Great Britain are hungry for plenty of reasons that are outside of their control, but are inside the control of the government. 

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jools88
jools88
03 Dec 2013 22:14

Rubbish. Work harder and longer. Then all will be ok.

DJ
DJ
03 Dec 2013 22:37

Mrs C the law of averages says that there will always be people above and below the poverty line. While it is defined as a percentage of the average wage the numbers below this line increase or decrease not because of any changes in their own circumstances or wealth but simply on the vagaries of the wages across the country as a whole. But it's actual definition you can NEVER lift everyone above the line because as the average wage rises so does the line and so people remain below it.

 

Genuine poverty and hardship can happen to anyone despite their best efforts. Circumstances can change in a heartbeat and no one is immune from that but there is a difference in how you react to it. Those people who blame life and just feel sorry for themselves deserve a kick up the backside as well as a helping hand to assist them. Those who deserve our respect as well as help to assist them are the people who do ANYTHING to improve their circumstances - any kind of work, grabbing every opportunity. They are prepared to help themselves. Poverty and what you do about it is as much a state of mind as anything else. 

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roberta
roberta
04 Dec 2013 08:45

I tried to buy some reduced pots in Coop just now, wouldnt let me have them because they were best before 3rd Dec, perfectly good veg going in the bin--- CRAZY

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flo
flo
04 Dec 2013 09:01

Do you know there are people out there who fall on hard times and need help for whatever period of time, often only short.  A number of these people won't claim benefits which is why they struggle.  You can be as hard working as you like but if you're a small business and people don't pay their bills on time or you're self employed and become seriously ill, circumstances can overtake you. 

i find your attitude extremely sad @jools88.

@roberta, i totally agree, we've had this conversation lots of times at home about the waste. coop of all companies, supposedly ethical, do they really just throw stuff away?!

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roberta
roberta
04 Dec 2013 09:29

@flo, i asked the question and they said they are wasted off the system and binned

neilh
neilh
04 Dec 2013 23:47

Apparently there is a Dawlsih food bank being set up through "UCADD".  Perhaps they can lobby supermarkets to recycle food which perhaps is past sell-by date but still normally safe to eat.

neilh
neilh
04 Dec 2013 23:55

Have contacted UCADD.  Waiting to see what they say.

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neilh
neilh
13 Dec 2013 22:05

No news yet from UCADD but the petition has succeeded, with over 130,000 signatures so thanks to everyone here who signed up.

The debate will go ahead in a week's time, on the Wednesday 18th of December, so the next week is crucial.  The next request is:

"Please take a moment to contact your local MP to tell them why you signed the petition and ask them to attend the debate to represent you as one of their constituents. 

Ask them to visit a foodbank in their area, if they haven't already. Ask them to stand up for the hungry people in their constituency, people in work, out of work, people living on their own, people with children, all struggling to put food on the table in one of the richest and most developed countries in the world."

Here is the site for contacting your MP or other representatives:

https://www.writetothem.com/

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spiral 1
spiral 1
15 Dec 2013 16:50

Rht Honourable Anne Marie has been invited to attend the debate on the 18th Dec to represent the South West.

But of course the more invites the better?

neilh
neilh
15 Dec 2013 17:32

Definitely more invites the better to show strength of local feeling

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neilh
neilh
19 Dec 2013 14:20
Great local news .....
Customer at Dawlish Sainsburys donated £150 worth of groceries to HITS FoodBank.
Customer at Dawlish Sainsburys donated £150 worth of groceries to HITS FoodBank.

 

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neilh
neilh
19 Dec 2013 14:21

And in Teignmouth .......

Morrisons staff and Teign Estuary Rotary collect goodies for HITS FoodBank's Christmas hampers.
Morrisons staff and Teign Estuary Rotary collect goodies for HITS FoodBank's Christmas hampers.

 

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spiral 1
spiral 1
22 Dec 2013 12:41

Update from Parliament!

 

While we enjoy our christmas Turkey a thought will go out for our Local MP the invitation to attend the debate foodbank and hunger in Westminster on the 18th Dec. seems not to have struck a cord, 

Far from representing the South West and the many who are really struggling now it seems like our local MP thought it less important and voted

together with 275 other members against the motion!

 

Lets hope she really enjoys her Christmas meal?

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neilh
neilh
22 Dec 2013 19:49

Yes it was totally shameful that Anne-Marie Morris chose to vote against the motion.  Also it appears that IDS left the debate and wouldn't respond personally to the charge that it's the conservative's changes to welfare reform that have brought about this obscene situation of almost half-a-million people needing food from foodbanks in this country.  I have also read that the government has turned down EU money specifically designated as aid to establishing foodbanks.

Why don't you write to the heartless Anne-Marie Morris and let her know what you think:

 

https://www.writetothem.com/

 

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spiral 1
spiral 1
23 Dec 2013 21:16

Judging by the letters sent and the lack of response i doubt unfortunately it would make a jot of difference.

she obviously decided that towing the line was more favourable?

FredBassett
FredBassett
23 Dec 2013 21:59

To date have not contributed to this discussion on the grounds that Im not sure of the answer to the tittle question.

What I do not think is correct however is that its all the governments fault.

If people lived within their means and didnt burden the social state with all their daily needs pehaps the government wouldnt have to borrow £1.2 billion every year to bail them out

The social benifits are for assistance not existance.  

This countries current system is not sustainable and a lot of people will soon have to accept reality, for that im truly sorry but the end of either benifits or the NHS or both  is neigh

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