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Paul
Paul
25 Nov 2013 12:47

United Kingdom

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2512650/Cameron-prepares-showdown-Europe-benefits-Romanian-Bulgarian-migrants.html

No benefits for migrants for a year.

Nice one Dave. Why didn't the Labour Party do this years ago?

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User 4549
User 4549
25 Nov 2013 12:57
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Judith Chalmers
Judith Chalmers
25 Nov 2013 13:28

"Scratch the surface of any Briton and you will find a migrant."

 

PAUL: How about this more balanced article?

 

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/nov/25/cameron-hysteria-grasp-nettle-immigration#comments

Paul
Paul
25 Nov 2013 13:31

@Mrs C, what's your point?

Judith Chalmers
Judith Chalmers
25 Nov 2013 13:45

PAUL:  My point is that sometimes you need to look further than the hysteria being whipped up by the Daily Mail. 

Paul
Paul
25 Nov 2013 13:59

OK, good point, which can be said of The Guardian as well.

I think it is a good idea not give handouts too soon. This should deter people from coming here purely for the benefits.

Brooklyn Bridge
Brooklyn Bridge
25 Nov 2013 14:31

Paul, thanks for the post. Yes I agree with this but i think it's to late. Of course you will be blasted as it come's from the Daily Mail or as some people would call it "The Daily Fail" ..... If benefit's should be given, give them the same benefits that they would get in their own country. Then you would see the difference in migration.

 

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FredBassett
FredBassett
25 Nov 2013 14:40

Nice one Dave -shame the mamby pamby sit on the fence Lib dems dont want to back you on this. What are they scared of then, somebody calling them racist.

Tell europe to stuff it because as soon as we get our referendum we wont be in europe anywayuk us flag

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Paul
Paul
25 Nov 2013 14:56

Definitely OUT! yes

User 4549
User 4549
25 Nov 2013 15:10

Mrs C the nutter is quite good at what she cuts and pastes, pity she didnt cut and paste the whole article

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Brooklyn Bridge
Brooklyn Bridge
25 Nov 2013 15:40

On clicking the link Mrs C posted I now see where she use's the word "Hysteria".  However i wouldn't call her a nutter think that is a little rude but she is misguided to think that all this immigration will have no effect on her in the long term. Just for Mrs C's information we had to pay 5,000 Dollars = 2,000 GBP  legal expenses plus 1,500 Dollars = 928 GBP to the UK Border Agency to have my American Wife enter the UK legally. And on her spousal visa and passport it states and stamped: 

NOT ENTITLED TO BENEFITS !! NOT ENTITLED TO BENEFITS !! and rightly so as she has never paid into the system. I on the other hand have and contiued to pay my National Insurance for the past 30 years when i was in the USA plus of course i had paid NI from the age of sixteen when i entered the work place in the UK. So I have a genuine voice.  

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Judith Chalmers
Judith Chalmers
25 Nov 2013 15:44

USER4549: I'm not quite sure what I've done to warrant the sobriquet "nutter" that you lent me?  I pasted the link to the whole article which, like I wrote, provides a more balanced view of the pros and cons. 

Judith Chalmers
Judith Chalmers
25 Nov 2013 15:51

Thank you BROOKLYN BRIDGE. I never doubted that you have a genuine voice. We all are entitled to our opinion, as long as temperate language and actions are used. 

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flo
flo
25 Nov 2013 18:59

Mrs C, you have a differing opinion which means you will be labelled as a nutter by some on this forum.  You will notice a lot of people don't post on these types of discussions due to the name calling.

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b.o.liking
b.o.liking
26 Nov 2013 18:20

Give all the migrants both legal and illegal the bloody lot.

Wait till you want any benefits.It will be a case of you don't qualify.

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OLD FART
OLD FART
27 Nov 2013 12:15

Don't pay in, don't get out. To many generations of freeloaders who have never worked sucking this country dry. The last thing we need in this country are people coming over and claiming from a benefit system they have Never contributed to. 

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wondering
wondering
27 Nov 2013 12:26
Judith Chalmers
Judith Chalmers
27 Nov 2013 12:53

Irony alert!

This is a letter in today's 'i' newspaper:

It seems there are 8,000 Bulgarians ready to set foot on British soil. Don't they know we have malnutrition, slavery, austerity by the shedload, limited housing, unemployment, bedroom tax, corrupt politicians, lousy teachers, incompetent health workers and of course inefficient police and social services?
Maybe I should consider emigrating to Bulgaria. 
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wondering
wondering
27 Nov 2013 12:57

England was great until it was ruined...Labour will never ever get my vote again.

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roberta
roberta
27 Nov 2013 13:10

I think England was great until we were led by Ted Heath into Europe (CONNED)

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wondering
wondering
27 Nov 2013 13:16

Well Labour have no intention of giving people a referendum ..but tories are going to.

Lets get out!

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roberta
roberta
27 Nov 2013 13:23

politicians tell lies when it suits them, notice how he wont give a referendum now, why, because he wants people like you to vote Tory because hes promised a referendum if he gets in again. Wake up and smell the rat

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Paul
Paul
27 Nov 2013 13:33

Can't have the EU referendum before Scotland votes on independence. We've been promised a 'In' 'Out' no strings attached vote. My vote is definitely OUT!

roberta
roberta
27 Nov 2013 13:41

"promised" is the operative word

Paul
Paul
27 Nov 2013 13:46

"Promised" - meaning our good mate Dave will give us a vote.

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