General Discussion
First of all we learned that George Osborne has changed his hairdresser when he rocked up to the conference with wha...t looked like a decomposing raccoon perched on top of his brainless head.
Yes this was the news that George was going for Russell Crowes tough look in gladiator but managed to pull off a kind of ''carry on gladiator'' look, but he was not the only bizarre thing prancing around in Manchester !! Theresa May turned up as the last tribute act to the Bay City Rollers complete with tartan suit and shiny shoes with sparkly stones in the heels, She did get a large round of applause as she took to the stage though which turned to a sigh of disappointment when the audience realised it was not Billy Connolly but that mad old bird from the home office.
Iain Duncan Smith turned up looking like a national front skin head snarling at everyone while the conference security guards made sure there was no disabled people lurking around for fear that ''Gripper Smith'' would tip them from their wheel chairs and give them bloody scroungers a dam good kick in.
Defense secretary Philip Hammond was busy telling everybody how brilliant he was and how he had single handedly destroyed the British army with nothing more than his pen when two old soldiers stood up and made their last stand, surrounded by hostile natives and before they were overcome by sheer weight of numbers they were able to tell Hammond, who was already waving a white handkercheif while cowering behind the plinth and sobbing for them not to hurt him, just what a proper tool he was and how he had wiped out regiments that had bled young men's lives for hundreds of years to protect the people of the British Empire.It may not have been Zulu Dawn but at least these two old warrior's made their last stand against the enemy within.
So what about what they all had to say !! Well they said very little, yet again was no mention of these tough new tax avoidance laws to claw back the 70 odd billion that their donors and friends owe the tax payer,there was defiance that there would be no mansion tax and there would be more tax cuts for the big corporations of who's shareholders sit on their front benches and drink for free in the house of lords.
According to the over whelming theme to this conference, the only thing that matters is to take and punish the people who already have nothing, the key word was ''Hard working people'' which they creepily said as much as possible and in every TV interview as if to hypnotically burn it in to our subconscious that we would start to go about our day chanting ''we must work hard, we must work hard, we must kill those that don't, we must kill those that don't''
It was pretty pathetic and insulting to most peoples intelligence and we probably paid somebody a few million quid to come up with the idea of repeating this silly verse to us out of our TVs and radio and also reading it in the papers, in fact I heard it said so many times it was stupid but a tiny bit sinister and make no mistake it is intended to further isolate and stigmatise the unemployed and the disabled and silence the injustice of the punishments being continually heaped upon them under the flag that everyone is playing the system.
It is a disgrace and it is divisive and shameful and will damage the villages, towns and cities and their community spirit, which has seen this country prevail over hundreds of years and through its darkest hours and when everything seemed to be lost.
Make no mistake the Tories are now asking the working class to side with them, against the lower classes and all the while they are enjoying tax cuts and corporation tax cuts, huge privatising contracts and tax havens, in fact the very wealthy have seen their fortunes grow sharply under this governments protection and it is no coincidence that tax returns have fallen under the Tories and so public services are cut to make up the difference.
I am astounded that so many people have been so easily fooled and diverted their gaze from what this government is up to and are now just staring at the scapegoats as the Tories make hay in the sun.
A bedroom tax for the poor but no mansion tax for the wealthiest
A rise in VAT for us and a tax cut just for the wealthiest
A war on the welfare state and a blind eye for tax avoidance
A failing NHS for us and a money cow for the wealthy in its privatisation
A freeze or drop in wages for us and huge bonus payments for the banking wealthy
A freeze in tax credits for the WORKING poor and expenses and benefits now at a all time high for the political wealthy
So I ask you once more? where should your gaze really be fixed because all the time your back is turned the sly old Tory fox is in the hen house.
Finally what about David Cameron's speech ! Well it reminded me of that boy at school who would always enjoy reporting you to the teacher and smile as you were punished.
In Cameron's case he would be running to the teacher whining that Labour had done this or its all Labours fault, and I was only cleaning up Labours mess and Labour got me into trouble.....
You get the jest, even after over three years, he still wants to blame Labour for the weak economy and the lack of housing and the failing NHS and the disaster that is universal credit.
This was not a conference it was a finger pointing exercise, no real fresh ideas, just fresh accusations and fresh punishments and more hints that we will be on the sharp end of more cuts and to get your vote in a years time, a few crumbs from the high table like 3 pound a week to get married or £2.70 per week extra for the lowest paid.
If this is all it takes to make you feel that you are a Tory at the next election then it may be that all hope is lost and the good honest caring folk of these green and pleasant lands will not prevail against a second term, under the likes of David Cameron, George Osbourne and Iain Duncan Smith.See more
Watching BBC1 Queestion Time,,,Labour MP says with Labour all young people will be 'Guaranteed' a job. That is impossible. because they dont encourage new business as everyone knows Labour always tax a business as high as possible . No wonder they want young 16 years olds to vote.. so to get votes. Benefits and borrow more money,
They havent a bloomin clue.
@Brazilnut - you negate any arguement you might have against tory policies by your childish attack on their looks. is that really the playground level of abuse that you think would ever help this country? shame on you
And I can remember (even if you choose to have selective memory loss on the subject) just how many times Tony Blair and the Labour Govt from 1997 onwards blamed the Tories for any problems they had, saying it was because of how the last Tory Govt had left it and yet Labour inherited a very stable economy which they then set about wrecking. Selling off our gold, raiding our world envied pension schemes and destabilising them with a huge tax, removing banking regulations which then led in part to the crisis.
And I am always amazed how the Tory party is abused for being "toffs" and going to good public schools. Are you seriously saying that as a small child any of them should have turned round to their parents and said "please don't send me to that school because in the future someone might hold it against me". It is about time people were judged on what they do or don't do rather than the accident of being born into a particular family/class (something they had no control over, any more than you did over your own birth) and then also being blamed for decisions made by their parents on where they went to school. Again, something they had no control over, any more than you did as a child. After all there are plenty on the Labour benches who went to very good fee paying schools and were brought up in very wealthy families and yet that seems to be allowed to go unnoticed by those having a go at the Tories.
DJ I agree. ..as I have said soimewhere before you cant actually expect Socialists to knoe any understand better,..people have more sense in 2013 than want to go back to 1970s when you couldnt even get buried ..strikes everywhere!. Every time the tories have to clear up the mess.
At least it is clear Ed is very red and left wing so people have a clear choice.
OMG what a selfish bunch of small minded people you are, 2thirds of this once glorious country are suffering real hardship under these savage cuts. In the war years there was an element of all together and people were compassionate towards those who were suffering real hardship, that would certainly be lost on you lot, shut in your cosy well heeled lives, "Im alright and why should I pay towards helping them". Its obvious the posting you are replying to was copied and pastied, but even you thickskinned lot cannot deny the truth in part of that posting
"A bedroom tax for the poor but no mansion tax for the wealthiest
A rise in VAT for us and a tax cut just for the wealthiest
A war on the welfare state and a blind eye for tax avoidance
A failing NHS for us and a money cow for the wealthy in its privatisation
A freeze or drop in wages for us and huge bonus payments for the banking wealthy
A freeze in tax credits for the WORKING poor and expenses and benefits now at a all time high for the political wealthy" OPEN YOUR EYES and forget political leanings. I am undecided on who to vote for but you lot put me off ever joining your elite band of tory smugness
Notice the massive surge in borrowing during the last two years of the last Labour government, what the hell was all that spent on, trying to buy votes?
yes but in part to pay the interest on all the borrowing that went on under the last Labour Govt and to tidy up the mess left
So roberta you aren't happy that govt borrowing has increased and yet you are outraged at the cuts - you can't have it both ways
It was proved beyond doubt in the 1970s that just increasing the tax burden on the higher earners doesn't actually work
And why presume we are all shut in cosy well heeled lives? I work very, very hard for every penny I earn and I still earn far less than the average wage in this country and doubt I will ever be earning enough to pay the higher tax rate, but I don't shut my eyes to the fact that there are wealth creators in this country WHICH WE NEED who will simply up and move themselves, their money and the jobs they help create to another country if they are taxed too highly and unfairly.
Ive been trying to understand debt and deficit and found this http://www.rftexpresscouriers.co.uk/UK%20deficit%20The%20Truth.htm
And who could forget the famous note left by the outgoing Labour Treasury Minister, Liam Byrne, stating "I'm afraid to tell you there's no money left". He later claimed it was a joke, but we all know he was telling the honest truth. Thanks, Labour.
You knoe how Socialists want Nationalisation for everything and powerful unions... I'm gonna tell you a true story!
In 1970s when Labour and the buses were Nationalised then...the drivers up country went on strike on Sundays to get double pay. They stayed on strike for 4 Sundays and thought it was great people were inconvenienced. The passengers found other ways to get where they wanted....when they returned to work the already few passengers were gone and was a case to withdraw the services and they were. No work was available on Sundays.
Labour and their Unions never learn...its strange how some want to go back and not forward!
Whatever your party and have little time for any,its the quality of the M.P thats a joke.They are all a bunch of W-----RS.Most of the parties have a dwindling membership and are without funds
and these people run our finances.What a Bloody Larf.