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Lynne
Lynne
28 Jan 2011 09:27

Haldon Forest under threat.

http://www.eclipse.co.uk/exeter/haldon/

SteveJ
SteveJ
28 Jan 2011 12:37

Yes, why not sell off our land when land prices are at an all time low? What incompetent prat came up with this idea, and which member of the house of Lords will be buying up this cheap land?

FRONTERAMAN
FRONTERAMAN
28 Jan 2011 13:12

What will happen to the Haldon travelers camp when the forest is sold off.

Do the people proposing to sell actually own the land or is it another Sandy lane ie land left to the people being hijacked by the authorities

Will the banks offer mortgages to buy some trees do you think or will the Green party take them over to provide housing for their Tree hugging followers.

Either way someone will line their pockets whille the rest of us will suffer the loss

Lynne
Lynne
02 Feb 2011 01:38

This issue is being debated in parliament today (Weds. 2nd Feb). Will our MP vote in favour of the government proposals? Suspect she will.

http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/nature/official-englands-forest-selloff-will-cost-more-than-it-saves-2201501.html

xxx
xxx
09 Feb 2011 15:07

She did vote in favour. And there is nothing on her website about her opinion on the proposed sell off / leasing / giving away to charities of our forests. I emailed her, but haven't had a reply, so I don't know what her reasons are for voting in favour.

The sell off won't even make money, based on defra's own figures.

Lynne
Lynne
10 Feb 2011 02:15

Yes I know she did (voted in favour).

Unlike Dawlishblue I have had a response from her - a hard copy letter too long to reproduce in its entirety here. However, in part of it she writes "In order to reduce the budget deficit, the Government will look to sell 15% of the public forest and woodland estate by 2015".

I have e-mailed her back saying, as Dawlishblue does above, that figures show that the sell off won't make any money for the government, indeed there is an anticipated loss. Therefore where is the financial/economic argument for the proposed sell off?

She's yet to respond.

Lynne
Lynne
10 Feb 2011 03:06
Smokey
Smokey
11 Feb 2011 09:02

£pm news been put on hold

Lynne
Lynne
11 Feb 2011 10:03

Thanks for that PJD. Here's the text of a message I've just received from the organisation 38 Degrees.

Breaking news! The government have announced they will pause forest sell-offs for a few months. It's a brilliant sign, but our forests are still in danger. If we keep working together, we can save our forests forever - not just for a few months.

The government is still going full steam ahead with changing the law to clear the way for a 100% sell-off. It looks like they hope the fuss will die down if they pause a few sales here and there - so they can press on with quietly scrapping legal protection for our public woodlands.

Our petition is now 490,000 strong. Let's show the government we will keep campaigning until English forests are safe, by making sure the petition passes half a million signatures today.

Please forward this email and ask your friends to sign:
http://www.38degrees.org.uk/save-our-forests


Picture yourself in the last forest you visited. Remember how you felt, what you saw, how peaceful it was. Now imagine hearing that this beautiful place has been auctioned off. We just can't let it happen!

By working together, bit by bit, we are protecting our woodlands for future generations. Since 38 Degrees members voted to launch this campaign, we've spread the word, emailed our MPs, and chipped in to pay for opinion polls and adverts. It’s starting to work - today is a time to celebrate. But we also need to keep the pressure building.

Please forward this email and ask your friends to help get our petition past half a million signatures today:
http://www.38degrees.org.uk/save-our-forests



Let's keep going!

David, Johnny, Hannah and the 38 Degrees team


PS:
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NOTES:

See for example:
BBC: Ministers halt some forest sales after public outcry - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-12428814
Guardian: http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2011/feb/11/english-forest-sell-off-on-hold


The bigger we are the more we can do. Please forward this email to your friends and ask them to get involved.

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xxx
xxx
16 Feb 2011 15:28

Fight The Public Bodies Bill! - There is still time to write to the lords and ask them to drop the forestry clauses from the Bill - keep OUR forests owned by the public, and run by the forestry commission.

List of lords here -
http://www.parliament.uk/mps-lords-and-offices/lords/

Lynne
Lynne
17 Feb 2011 02:05
Smokey
Smokey
17 Feb 2011 06:08

Gov done a u-turn plans for sell off been dropped

wondering
wondering
17 Feb 2011 06:15

Well at least they listened .. Labour never did that!

Smokey
Smokey
17 Feb 2011 06:18

Agree

Andy Mac
Andy Mac
17 Feb 2011 07:52

+1. What a hare-brained scheme that was though!

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