General Discussion
Dawlish Carnival??
I heard today that the Carnival has been cancelled - any truth in this? Maybe it's the airshow as there is a lack of sponsors?
Is this the final nail in the coffin for Dawlish? It is the only reason why people come here. NOT for our lovely beaches and parks covered with dog cr@p, or looking at the dregs of society drinking their Special Brew and cheap Cider on the lawn.
Don't talk bollocks. Its not the only reason people come here - the town and the Warren have been heaving since Easter! And quite rightly so, because Dawlish is a jewel that we should be proud of (instead of talking down all the time - a favourite pastime of miserable locals).
Quite right Dawlish man,it is a jewel that we should be proud of,but theres no escaping the fact that the winos in the shelter are a royal pain in the @ss. Constantly thieving from the shops,threatening staff,shouting insults at locals and visitors alike,sitting in that p*ss smelling shelter or on the benches on the sea wall,fighting on the lawns(yesterday). Its not talking down the town,its a reality which is sadly with us. They dont put up with it in Teignmouth so why should we?
@Dawlish Man. be honest with yourself, and cut the abusive language out, or are you so ignorant that you cannot think of another word to use instead of the word bo!!ocks? maybe you have limited brain(if you have one) power. anyway, i am digressing.(lose clarity or turn aside especially from the main subject of attention or course of argument in writing, thinking, or speaking) if you lived up country and got out of the station for your visit to this town, how would you feel? would you come again? i would certainly feel disappointed. a jewel to be proud of??? i'm sure you think that when walking around the town having to dodge all the dog poo or looking at all the mindless vandalism.
ps. @Dawlish Man. "the town and the warren have been heaving since easter!" heaving??? mildly busy more like it and that is because they are all here on the cheap £9:50 per person deals from the sun etc. would you pay full price??
Also I would like to see the Carnival Week stay and revert back to as it was before the Airshow took over, after all it was always for the locals, and holidaymakers who booked their holidays to coincide. I feel that the Airshow has taken pecedent in the last 10years or so
Would YOU pay FULL price?? Not if its full of miserable barstewards like you. "Another nice place ruined by the people that live here" overheard on the sea front the other day, the guy must have met you then.
@ Lazlo. ha ha ha ha. You are so funny. That is funny that the people who are NOT blinkered and can see the problem with Dawlish, you think that they are miserable. True?? Well, maybe if MORE of us stood up and voiced an opinion instead of sitting down and doing NOTHING, like a lot of Dawlish people, then something might be done.
@ PJD "Also I would like to see the Carnival Week stay and revert back to as it was before the Airshow took over" I TOTALLY agree with you. It (the airshow) only benefited some of the businesses in the town and NOT the people.
"Another nice place ruined by the people that live here" overheard on the sea front the other day, the guy must have met you then. @ Lazlo. WHY say that? WHY have I ruined Dawlish? Do I go round smashing windows, start fights, leave litter/beer cans on the streets/lawn, steal to feed my drug taking habit, let my dog foul the footpaths and parks without clearing up after, spit on the pavement, openly swear loudly in public, let my dog kill the cygnets??? I dont think so, so next time you reply to a forum post, put your tiny little pea sized brain into gear before you do anything else. I look forward to your answer.
Still talking bollocks I see. Yes, the wino's should be dealt with - no-one's arguing with that. However, it's the "small-town, small-mind" attitude of the likes of you that are holding Dawlish back. The wino's are merely a small blot on the landscape of all towns - I really think that you need to look at the bigger picture. You say that people should get off their arses, can I ask what it is that you're doing to effect the changes that you so clearly desire? Apart from writing a blog that's used purely to slag off Dawlish...
I love Dawlish but boy has it changed in the last 15yrs, DM take your rose tinted glasses off and really look around you, everything investigator says is true, Dawlish has gone from a pretty family oriented town into what it is now a shambles. And your beloved CCTV has done nothing to help this town.Ask the Mnager of the Co-op how much he loses every week through people stealing to feed their drug and alchohol problems, which then forces higher prices onto us !!!!!!!!!
@PJD. Again, well said. DM is your typical blinkered local who does nothing but let everyone else do it for him. Except for when it comes to writing the utter rubbish he comes out with. It really IS time for him to wake up and really see what is going on in this town and how it has deteriorated in the past 10-15 years. Dawlish used to be the far superior town when compared to Teignmouth, but the roles have been reversed now, and have been for years.
@DM. "it's the "small-town, small-mind" attitude of the likes of you that are holding Dawlish back." What exactly do you mean by accusing me and possibly others by 'Holding Dawlish back'? Surely it is YOU who is the small minded one!!!
You and your kind do nothing but whinge about "the good old days" (forgetting of course that there's no such thing), but are nowhere to be seen when asked to help improve our great little town. Of course Dawlish needs improvements, name me a town anywhere that doesn't, but whenever improvements are put on the table the usual vocal minority always find something to complain about, without offering any kind of constructive alternative. What are you doing, other than whinging on your pathetic blog?
@DM, (or should it be Mr Blinkered?) Shame you dont read FULLY what I am about, instead of picking out the words that you only want to see. Are you a journalist who works for the gutter press? They look at a paragraph the way you do, then pick out certain words to make up a sentence that is completely false. Have I said I want to go back to the good old days? NO, so wake up. I want to see Dawlish great again and improve on what is here now? So that is slagging off then is it? People like you are so ignorant and Dawlish will NEVER be a great place while there are people like YOU around.
You're full of demands, but you have nothing constructive to offer do you? Neither in terms of ideas or in terms of physical involvement. TAKE TAKE TAKE, but never GIVE GIVE GIVE. It's also noticeable that, typical of the vocal minority around here, you never answer direct questions either.
@ Mr Blinkered. "It's also noticeable that, typical of the vocal minority around here, you never answer direct questions either." I think you should practice what you preach as you do exactly the same.
@PJD Ask Dawlish Man. He has ALL the answers. LOL But only if he sticks his head up his backside. He talks from it.
Wow, your so humourous, let me get my sowing kit to stich my sides back up. Move over Jimmy Carr Dawlish has a new comedian, his humour and wit is outstanding, the one liners are just fantastic, mixed with his self opinionated, egotistical bullshit hes as funny as piles and migrane mixed together, but my pea sized brain cant keep up with the meistro of mirth. Hale the master of bollocks and bullshit, I humbley salute you, and doff my cap to the saviour of our community. Hale.
23 replies with sod all to do regarding the carnivals problems, instead content with petty bickering! If the carnival/airshow is likely to be cancelled due to cash shortfalls, how about those that want to make a killing from OUR town, showing some generousity? Sainsburys, Tescos, then Midas homes or Cavanna ( which ever one it is that wants to urbanise the Gatehouse fields. Is it 30 or 50 grand that is needed to stage the Carnival/Airshow, thats peanuts to these large companies that will earn ten times that amount once they get their greedy mits into the town! If they are so ' commited ' to our town, then dig into your deep pockets and show some prior comitment to the town that you will eventualy earn so much from!
Who needs the Air Show ? Not as if Dawlish is famous for it's flying is it, just put on a carnival about the town run by the people of the town and look at your best assests. How about a sand sculpture competition ? Very popular. The warren could have a rock pile one
totally agree mark, airshow has had its day, leave it to Dartmouth and Torbay and give us back OUR Carnival
I wonder if the Carnival Committee know that people locally aren't that bothered by the airshow? Seems from comments here (when you wade through the insults and the personal disputes - btw thanks fro hijacking the thread for a general whinge) that people want the Carnival as it's for locals more than the airshow that's mainly for holidaymakers. My take on the views here anyway.
Some on here love to hijack threads for a moan, what i dont get is why they dont move as they hate it here. Perhaps they could go to teignmouth because they dont have wino's. or crime ! As tesco are already in the town , perhaps they could donate towards the carnival.
rubbish! don't use the excuse of shoplifters raising consumer prices! forgetting co-op for one moment. what were tesco's declared pre tax profits for last year? shoplifters my soft pink bottom!
LOL- no airshow, this town will be a doss hole of devon within 2 years, like it or lump it, you already see the signs...
IN FACT- IT WILL BE: PENSIONERS WHO CHAMPION CAUSES AND IN THE PROCESS , WASTE TAX PAYERS MONEY, OR CHAV CRACK ADDICTS- WHO IN (OPPOSING) LEAGUES, RUN THIS TOWN...
Seriously? do people really think Dawlish is ripe to be taken over by crack addicts? Having a fantasy life is all very well by try not to let it seep into your waking hours. Have a look around you next time you step out from behind your computer. Dawlish is a smallish, seaside town with a low crime rate, pretty good schools and on the whole a good community spirit. If you doubt how lucky you are to be living here might I suggest a summer exchange with a family living in Moss Side.
Agreed. When I first moved to Teignmouth, one of the first things that I noticed was that almost all of the flashing lights and sirens (not that they were frequent)were from ambulances rather than police cars. Another was that the shops did not have metal grilles over the windows.
Dont bring my beloved Manchester into this, Moss Sise is not as bad as you think, i doubt you've ever been there, there are much worse places to compare Dawlish to, not that Dawlish is anything like any inner city suburb, but look a bit closer to home like Plymouth for instance, its not without its fair share of problems.
Apologies, Moss Side was the first example that came into my head, no offence intended. Admittedly North Prospect could have served almost as well as an example.
how strange that the free devon life magazine, in its whats on section for august, makes no mention of our carnival only the airshow, whats that about !!!!
I notice there's a large banner advertising the carnival down on the sea front. Programme's are due to go on sale in early August!!
what I meant was the Airshow is given preference over our Carnival by advertising it, other places Carnivals are mentioned
I think the reason why the Airshow is advertised and not the carnival is because they have two different committees and obviously the carnival committee didn't send in the advertising form. I think Teignmouth must have forgotten also!!!!!!!
Will there be an outcry from the teignmouth folk. Will they all get slated. will they be hung from the lamposts or cctv stands.........nope.
That's what I was thinking. If anyone hanged me at night the cctv would be neither deterrent nor useful in catching them (not that the police would be that bothered.)If, on the other hand, someone's dog made a mess on the pavement during the day......
"Pity"? Yeah, how crap it is that the local community has rallied round to save our show... Sometimes you are an utter tool.
CARNIVAL BIG YES, Airshow has had its day, not for the locals only for business premises and visitors, sorry to upset you but im not a tool merely voicing an opinion as a devon and dawlish resident
Heaven forbid that visitors come to our our town, spending their money in businesses in our town! You know, businesses that employ local people! For your information, I'm a local, and I'm really looking forward to the airshow. You are clearly entitled to your opinion but please don't think for one millisecond that your opinion is even close to being representative of people in this town or in this county.
i have nothing against visitors coming to the town as a resident its what keeps us going in winter. Carnival week was always busy before the airshow whats so different now, in fact carnival week was better beore the airshow, it was good at the beginning then it took over and the carnival was swallowed upthis is not just my opinion in fact several people that ive spoken to have said the same. tell me as a resident what do i get from the airshow? negatives ar shut out of my town centre unable to go about my normal daily life, even tho i live away from centre have to put obstacles outside my house so i can park when i get home from work or else i have to park miles away in other words if you are a resident a day of inconvenience nothing else, but the carnival events cause non of this and i would be dissapointed if this was stopped. because of a shortfall i see no marquee this year, times are hard for us all and maybe having th airshow is a step too far
I hope the committee has something in store for Dawlish. Here is the programme lol >>> http://www.dawlishcarnival.com/programme.htm Just been to 'Teignmouth Got Talent' well organised and supported, that was just the afternnon entries..wish Dawlish would do just something a little different. Pram races and leg races to pubs are getting a bit tired.. maybe its just me and thats what people want ..pubs will anyway!
do agree wondering, need a rethink for next year to change things, we did used to have a full week of variety, but those people that organised then got older. its hard to get people to volunteer. i helped several years ago when children were smaller but you need to be able toget time off workand in august thats hard as i said i think the airshow has put carnival week in 2nd place
Is it a good idea to have alcohol on sale from 11am carnival week? Apparently the carnival fun's couldn't afford a marquee this year so the Boathouse kindly lent them one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I take it they want people to buy the book to see whats on.. dream on!! 'Its time to face the programme!' >> http://www.dawlishcarnival.com/programme.htm
Don am i right in thinking you live in Teignmouth where i believe alcohol is band from open spaces, The problem in Dawlish Is it's not unless of course your under the age limit. There is already a problem in that area with alcohol etc. Other years the carnival have hired a marquee and had good self caterers where families could enjoy a cuppa and bite to eat. Also part of the marquee was also used for changing facilities for the majorettes, Clay modeling to name but a few. I think this year it's going to be more like a beer tent!!!!!!
Ziggy, I do live in Teignmouth. I might say two things immediately. The first is that I know some of the people who spend time drinking on the lawn and have seen a great deal of harm caused by alcohol use around both Teignmouth and Dawlish. The second is that I do not drink myself and avoid places where people are drinking. Despite the above, I am uncomfortable with the idea of a ban on drinking in open spaces (as in Teignmouth) or denying the responsible majority the opportunity of buying alcohol from a marquee and drinking it on the lawn during the carnival in Dawlish. I understand what you are saying but the point of my previous post was that alcohol is readily available to those who are determined to get it. I was not being dismissive of your post and I apologise if I came over in that way. Don
eyes of dawlish is asking if the carnival committee should be crb checked, causing alot of disussion 56 comments so far