General Discussion
So, It's Going To Be Tesco...
Reading today's paper, it looks like a done deal that Tesco will be built at Ladys Mile. If true, it stinks.
How do Tesco do it? No matter what they always get their way. I prefer the quality of other stores. Watch your house price go down if you live near Tescoland!..'every litle helps' not!
I was really hoping that it was going to be Sainsburys. Better range, better quality, better ethics.
I realise that it will be more convenient than travelling to Newton Abbot to a supermarket. However, surely having either Tesco or Sainsbury so close must adversely affect local shops, many of which are struggling already?
We get as much of our produce as possible from the local shops, plus the food halls at Powderham and at Dart Farm. We only visit the supermarket for bulky items once a month. The petrol spent on driving to the likes of ASDA means that shopping locally is actually cheaper.
Never bought petrol in my life! ..am not proud to go by bus..Asda online deliver if a big shop is needed.
Nothing wrong at all with travelling by bus - good on you! :) And of course it never crossed my mind about the various supermarket home delivery services.
I get all of my meat, fish, bread, pasties and vegetables from local shops and I hardly buy tinned or frozen food. Milk, breakfast cereals, pasta, cat food and chocolate is all I buy at supermarkets Your shopping habits are pretty similar to mine - therefore, the question. Is your preference for Sainsbury's based on your being resigned to a supermarket being built or on a real desire to have one nearby? Don
My preference for Sainsbury is more a case of it being the lesser of two evils. A supermarket is inevitable, I just wish that it wasn't going to be Tesco's and I wish it wasn't out at Ladys Mile.
Sainsburys staff to me are far more polite, I dont think Tesco are bothered on customer services, I used to go to Tesco NA and found grumpy checkout staff, customers are such a nuisance you know!. I still dont see Tesco as cheap. I was in Kinsteighton last week and popped in Tesco Express spotted the Hovis bread at £1.15, well that I buy in Dawlish Costcutters at £1.09. Tesco have a clever publicity machine and people talk themselves into thinking they are picking up a bargain!
If it's Tesco, there will not be as many jobs generated as they are intent on introducing as many 'serve yourself' check-outs as they can in their supermarkets in order to maximise profits. I too don't find them very customer-friendly and the service at their in-store cafe in Kingsteignton is appalling. Also I think that a 2-hour limit on car parking penalises the disabled and elderly who may find it difficult to get round the store in that time.
I didn't really want any supermarket at all! I admit, coming from a town that had Asda, Tesco and Morrisons to a town that didn't have anything at all was a bit of a culture shock, but then I discovered the pleasure of walking round the local shops a couple of times a week to buy what I need. I find I spend less overall because I have a list in my head of exactly what I need and because I'm not wandering round massive aisles being tempted by items I don't really need. The only good thing I suppose is there'll probably be a petrol station to give the one we have some competition.
for info: A new petrol station is part of the Sainsbury planning application. There is no new petrol station with the Tesco proposal.
Had a letter today from Sainsburys saying Teignmouth DC will decide on 29 March, but TESCO is recommended by the planning officer. Email chair of planning committee: howard.milton@teignbridge.gov.uk if you have a view, or contact a local Councillor. but its all in the bag for Tesco it seems! You have to hand it to Tesco they can do just what they want and nobody ever objects!
If Tesco get the go ahead they won't be a threat to our local petrol stations as Sainsburys would be.
Agree that Tesco seem to be able to do what they want but disagree that nobody ever objects and they didn't end up building at Sandy Lane did they?! Approx 70 individual objections about Tesco building at Lady's Mile have been lodged with Teignbridge Council and 2 petitions have brought in another approx 300 signatures. Then I suspect others have contacted our local councillors registering their disquiet. Bottom line is, if the land at Lady's Mile wasn't available for Tesco to buy then planning permission or no planning permission they wouldn't be able to built there would they?
DAWLISH'S multi-million-pound store war is almost over — with Tesco ready to beat Sainsbury's in the fight for a new town supermarket. Ahead of a Teignbridge District Council meeting next Monday, officers have recommended that Sainsbury's application for a site near Shutterton Industrial Estate be refused and that Tesco's should be granted. A report to Monday's Development Control Meeting says of the Sainsbury's application: "It would result in a loss of land available for employment development, resulting in a shortfall of unemployment land provision." Tesco's 1,887sq metre application for Lady's Mile holiday park is viewed by the officers as more appropriate for the town, with roundabouts, road crossings, bus stops, cycleways and a flood-risk assessment being included. Whichever store is given the go-ahead by councillors next Monday, considerable cash donations will be made under a Section 106 agreement. This will include £200,000 towards town centre improvements, £40,000 for art, £300,000 over three years for improved bus services, £10,000 towards community transport and a staff travel plan, and £33,450 towards air-quality improvement and monitoring. Cllr Howard Milton, chairman of the district council's development control committee, said: "We now have to take both applications as new and make a decision over which is the preferred development. "Dawlish can't sustain two supermarkets, so a decision has to be made. There will be a winner and a loser and whoever is the loser, I can imagine will take the decision further." He stated that the situation was 'unique' in his six or seven years of experience on the committee, adding: "I am aware that so-called store wars have happened elsewhere in the country. "What we really have to do is ensure that we are whiter than white and that everything we do is transparent, and we make decisions on planning issues and aren't swayed by public opinion or any other distractions that aren't justifications for refusal on planning grounds." Sainsbury's had been granted planning permission in May 2008 for a 3,820sq metre store and petrol station at Shutterton Bridge. But soon after, Tesco lodged its own application plans for a 1,887sq metre store at nearby Lady's Mile. The Tesco plan was originally thrown out by the development control committee, whose members did not want two supermarkets in the town. Then at the end of last year, Tesco took the Sainsbury's decision to High Court judge Rabinder Singh, who quashed the district council's decision. The officer report going to next Monday's meeting said of the Tesco application: "There would be no adverse impact on the landscape character of the area. "The proposal would result in the loss of holiday accommodation in the Dawlish Warren holiday development area, but suitable compensatory provision has been made. "The proposal would not give rise to any adverse highway conditions and there would be no increased likelihood of flooding as a result of the development. "Any adverse impacts on ecology, residential amenity and air quality have been adequately mitigated." http://www.thisissouthdevon.co.uk/news/Tesco-edge-Dawlish-store-wars/article-1931607-detail/article.html
The land probably wasnt up for sale, but knowing Tesco they would have made the land owners an overpriced offer and knowing how the landowners aquired the land in the first place, they wouldve greedily accepted.
And now you won't have to, unless they are successful with their appeal to be heard in May by a Planning Inspector. Here's where we all have a part to play, to object to the grounds for their appeal and to reinforce the argument that only one store is justified for Dawlish at this size (by the way, the figures quoted for floor space in other mailings are on two different bases, one for nett sales area, the other for gross floor area including stores, delivery bay, etc., but in reality both store applications were for broadly the same sales area). The sequential argument was shown not to be relevant because neither site is significantly well connected to the existing town centre. What does count is the destructive impact that Tesco's building would have on a well developed tourist camp site, on the pleasant green approach to Dawlish, on the adjoining housing from noise and traffic nuisance,etc., There's more to be done and Dawlish has shown that its people can spread the word.
A good and useful summary, and we're ready to keep spreading that word! (But fingers very much crossed).
Conning an elderly lady out of a large amount of land for a very pitiful price. I remember the said lady living out her days in a rather ramshackle house, having to take in a lodger to assist her with paying the bills when if all had been done fairly, she should have been in a position to have been able to afford the luxury of a nursing home.