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Viaduct
Viaduct
14 Aug 2008 18:32

The world-famous Red Marrows have been banned from appearing at the 2012 London Olympics because they are deemed 'too British'. Organisers of the event say that the Marrows military background might be 'offensive' to other countries taking part in the Games. The display team have performed at more than 4000 events worldwide, but the Department of Culture, Media and Sport have deemed the display team 'too militaristically British.' Red Marrows pilots were said to be 'outraged', as they had hoped to put on a truly world class display for the Games, something which had never been seen before. Being axed from a British-based event for being 'too British' is an insult - the Marrows are a symbol of Britain .

The Red Marrows have been excellent ambassadors for British overseas trade, as they display their British-built Hawk aircraft all over the world.
The Marrows performed a short flypast in 2005 when the winning bid was announced, but their flypast at the Games was to have been truly spectacular. It is to be hoped that common sense prevails.

Jambuster
Jambuster
15 Aug 2008 18:13

Would the last English person leaving the country please turn off the lights

anon
anon
15 Aug 2008 20:15

Vote BNP its your last chance to save this country.

anon
anon
15 Aug 2008 20:19

dont vote lib dem especially money grabbing shit protheroe or dick ross vote green

The Truth
The Truth
15 Aug 2008 21:26

Another falsehood propogated by the Dawlish hater.

This blatant lie was first published in the Sun in September 2007.

2007!

This was then sent around the world via an email written by some moron.

Try reading the links below for the truth (rather than delusional conspiracy theories):

http://www.london2012.com/news/archive/2007-10/no-truth-in-red-arrows-rumour.php

http://www.hoax-slayer.com/red-arrows-petition.shtml



anon
anon
15 Aug 2008 21:29

The Sun?! You can always rely on that comic for truthful editorial! Best get back to The Beano or Dandy

The Truth
The Truth
16 Aug 2008 09:53

Come on Viaduct. Admit you were wrong to peddle that myth.

The Truth
The Truth
18 Aug 2008 13:59

I've emailed my best friend in the whole wide world, Sebastian Coe, whose reply to me was:

"LOL. Not that old chestnut! He's obviously a nutter. It's best to ignore him."

There you have it folks. I typed it on here, therefore it must be true.

Viaduct
Viaduct
18 Aug 2008 16:48

Still didn't answer the question did he?
Or are you the plonker that we believe you are.
Care to cut and paste his reply on here?
I doubt it!

Viaduct
Viaduct
18 Aug 2008 16:52

So "the truth", gets a mention on google.

London 2012 and the Red Arrows: the truth

Martin, Head of Ceremonies, 21 May 2008
It has become something of an urban myth: the Red Arrows have been banned from the Opening Ceremonies of London 2012. As the man responsible for delivering the ceremonies for London 2012, all I can say is: it's news to me.

We haven't actually started thinking about our ceremonies for 2012 yet; we're far more pre-occupied with the Closing Ceremonies for the Olympic and Paralympic Games in Beijing this year, where we have eight minute sections in each which mark the handover of the Olympic Flag from Beijing to London.

So let me put the record straight once and for all: The Red Arrows have not been banned. They may feature, they may not. It's simply not on our radar yet.

The Truth
The Truth
18 Aug 2008 17:37

Good. At long last, an admission from you that you were wrong to peddle this myth as if it were fact.

Apology accepted.

The Truth
The Truth
18 Aug 2008 17:38

Whichever plonker you think I am - I guarantee to you that I'm a different plonker!

So go on, which plonker do you think I am? Amuse me.

The Truth
The Truth
24 Aug 2008 16:54

Didn't the Red Arrows look brill when they flew over the London 2012 Party on the Mall this afternoon.

User 4549
User 4549
24 Aug 2008 17:06

I've emailed my best friend in the whole wide world, Sebastian Coe, whose reply to me was:

I would not believe a word seb coe says, ask him how many companies he is involved in, which now have many of the contracts and will make him millions

The Truth
The Truth
24 Aug 2008 18:33

That's very interesting, and if it's true then that is totally outrageous. Who are these companies and what contracts have they been awarded?

User 4549
User 4549
24 Aug 2008 22:21

If he is such a good friend you ask him, some months ago panorama did a program on contracts and companies formed by him and others, if I can find it I will let you know how to find it

User 4549
User 4549
24 Aug 2008 22:37

http://transparencyinsport.org/coe_stays_clear.pdf

Try this, and will try and find the program that exposed the companies and contracts

The Truth
The Truth
24 Aug 2008 23:09

I've got a lot of time for Andrew Jennings - he's a top class investigative reporter who backs up his allegations with hard evidence.

It's a pity there aren't more like him.

User 4549
User 4549
25 Aug 2008 08:36

Whilst I am most of the time sceptical of sensationalism by newspapers, in this instance I believe rightly or wrongly there is no smoke without fire.

LOCOG is led by Sebastian Coe (Chair) and Paul Deighton (Chief Executive). It is based in Canary Wharf along with the Olympic Delivery Authority.

Coe set up a company, Sebastian Coe Ltd, in March 2005 four months before London was chosen by the International Olympic Committee to host the Games, and set up an umbrella company, the Complete Leisure Group (CLG), to manage his business activities.

Perfectly placed to receive or hand out contracts.

User 4549
User 4549
25 Aug 2008 08:48

Try this and after which you will understandably form your own opinion.

http://www.pressgazette.co.uk/story.asp?storycode=38861

I previously said Panorama sorry for that as it was Channel 4 Dispatches

The Truth
The Truth
25 Aug 2008 09:16

Anthony Barnett is another fine investigative journalist with a great reputation for hard-hitting reports.

Thanks for the link to the Press Gazette article about the making of the Dispatches programme - do you also have a link to anywhere that names the companies in which Seb Coe has an interest and that have won London 2012 construction contracts. Then I will be able to form my own opinion.

Thanks.

User 4549
User 4549
25 Aug 2008 10:43

Thats a tough one as they are so secretive, if I get lucky I will post here for you.

On another subject, I am suprised that Dawlish residents did not react to the fact that Teignbridge council continue to collect monies from the parking machines in the strand when the lines are not prescribed as stated in the TSRGD, and they have been informed of this weeks ago.
Try this and then check yourself when in the Strand.

http://www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si2002/023113bm.gif

If you paste into google make sure you check UK as otherwise it will not find it for you

The Truth
The Truth
25 Aug 2008 11:16

Oh. But a couple of days ago you wrote on here:

I would not believe a word seb coe says, ask him how many companies he is involved in, which now have many of the contracts and will make him millions

But now you're saying that you don't have any evidence to back up your astonishing allegations. I'm bitterly disappointed.

User 4549
User 4549
25 Aug 2008 15:26

Sorry you are disappointed but that was a statement made in the broadcast which stuck in my mind, if I can find it for you I will post it.

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