General Discussion
@1263 , DAC is a libellous troll. It's best to ignore it.
@Steve I agree there is no defence for what is ritualistic cruelty. But what's the defence for non ritualized cruelty in the day to day farming of animals? Is cruelty okay as long as it isn't ritualized? @1263 There's nothing over the top about it, it is based on what I've read on various threads from these two contributors. I did not launch into anything, I simply do not believe that ...
@DAC Your being a bit over the top to say you think Paul and Steve are anti islamic, surely the main point is the cruel way the animals are killed, and then you launch into a diatribe about all other animal issues which takes away the main point of steve and pauls worthwhile post.
@Paul , it's impossible to defend such barbaric ritualistic cruelty, which is why the supporters had nothing of any substance to say.
Although the debate was well mannered and all contributors spoke with passion, the supporters of non-stun/halal/kosher slaughter did not make any sense, contradicted themselves and each other. Not banning this evil is simply wrong, it has no place in our country. Starmer’s weak government has even let animals down now.
@Paul and @Steve I don't believe you're truly concerned with animal welfare. I think you're just pretending to give a damn about animal welfare at the point of slaughter because it happens to suit your anti-islamic views. @Steve Decades of animal welfare progress? What are your views on horse racing then? Badger culling? Illegal fox hunting? What are your views on animal farming in ...
It's another step backwards for a country that's in decline. Decades of animal welfare progress all for nothing.
Good debate, but same old government line at the end. The government would like all animals to be stunned before slaughter but also respect religious beliefs. So the government allows the animal cruelty to continue. DISGRACEFUL.
Debate today. 16:30 Westminster Hall. (2025-06-09) Watch it here - https://parliamentlive.tv/Event/Index/120431fc-1c39-4931-bb8e-28186509ae6b Debate info - https://whatson.parliament.uk/event/cal52143
One of my relatives saying was when you start lying ,then you better have a bloody good memory.I do hope all the people involved in this new allegation about tax get a real kicking.