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Dawlish News
05 Feb 2019 16:16

Plans for a new, higher sea wall at Dawlish in Devon have been developed in partnership with engineering services firm Arup.

The design will prevent stormy conditions from damaging the railway at Dawlish, where the tracks and station are regularly damaged by flooding due to high waves and strong winds.

Read more...https://www.worldconstructionnetwork.com/news/network-rail-submits-plans-for-new-higher-sea-wall-at-dawlish-uk/

DEEDOODLE
DEEDOODLE
05 Feb 2019 17:05

Cannot see the application on Teignbridge planning web site yet although the area in question is highlighted in red. From the illustration on the news article the extended height wall is only from the station towards boat cove not the section between red rock cafe (as it use to be known and the Dawlish station!

S
S
05 Feb 2019 18:17

A breakwater would be better than just a bigger wall!

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ZIGGY
ZIGGY
06 Feb 2019 08:29

This is what the new Dawlish sea wall may look like

https://www.devonlive.com/news/devon-news/what-new-dawlish-sea-wall-2511315

maki1
maki1
06 Feb 2019 09:32
wondering
wondering
08 Feb 2019 10:42

They should build the line the other side of town ..Dawlish Parkway avoid the sea ..it will always win!

 

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leatash
leatash
08 Feb 2019 11:36

The cost of building a new line at todays prices 8.1 million per km then take into consideration the terrain the cost would go through the roof. Then we would have a sea wall with little or no maintenance putting the town and cliffs at risk of flooding and erosion.

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wondering
wondering
08 Feb 2019 18:24

I've always thought the town has no interest in the railway just want it to protect the town..maybe Netwerk Rail should build a 12 ft wall all along the track or make it a tunnel all along the seafront....that would protect the town but no sea views.

vicks
vicks
08 Feb 2019 22:59

As a Dawlish resident, who knows several other Dawlish residents who regularly use the railway, enjoying the beautiful journey and caring passionately about its future remaining in its present location as much as possible, I am rather confused (or perhaps bemused) by the above post, but definitely will not lose any sleep, or use up any further energy over it!!

webmaster
webmaster
07 Apr 2019 09:24

Received this moring.

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Houses of Parliament
Westminster 
London 
 
Dear Prime Minister May, 
 
Dawlish Sea Wall 2019 
 
The proposed plans raise the sea wall and walkway. This blights the seaside, cuts off holiday makers from the view, so reducing footfall in seven Dawlish Warren holiday centres and causes substantial loss of trade while building is conducted.
 
Dawlish is a family holiday centre of generations, building could permanently damage families visiting at all. 
 
.. 
Construction issues. 
 
A bigger wall means more debris for the sea to hit trains and buildings with.
Enough to derail a passing train that currently only gets sea spray. 
But the wall will weaken, just like the hole of the Prime Minister Cameron era.
Equivalent to a navy ship shelling our coast. 
 
Construction solution. 
Engineers, it is not the wall cracking under winter sea storms, it is THE LAND BEHIND THE RAILWAY BUCKLING FROM SUBSIDENCE.
 
Every storm and winter causes the red soil cliffs to contract and that breaks the wall that the sea then throws against trains and you are about to derail GWR Trains with a larger wall. 
 
Perhaps the army engineers could verify my assessment as of yesterday when I inspected its length.
 
I have worked on the wooden sea sand barriers too and they need upgrading as full and sand to stop Longshore Drift Erosion would also settle winter storm waves before they reach Dawlish sea wall and the army railway to nuclear Plymouth protected on behalf of France euro army that isn't yet but will be.
 
Prime Minister May, and Chancellor Hammond, building a higher wall just means more bricks for the sea to throw at trains and permanently close the sea railway. 
 
Put constant engineers on site to assess the wall in winter months, a security guard at the site for hired equipment and boulder and fence the red rock sandstone cliffs on the cliff side of Dawlish sea wall to prevent land movement in winter affecting the wall so causing cracks the sea turns into holes and throws bricks on trains from a expensive, useless higher sea wall that permanently closed the Dawlish rail route to Plymouth because looking for weapons and drugs policing cannot handle a population so engineers just do what they are told not what is needed.
 
Ask Devon house builders. They can keep the sea wall as it is and it is less cost over time to shore up the cliff side of the railway than build a bigger wall for the sea to have bricks as ammunition to throw at trains and people in buildings next bad winter. And it keeps Seven Dawlish Warren Holiday centres open. 
 
Yours sincerely, 
 
***************
 
But engineers with contracts, if your bigger sea wall breaks and railway close, YOU ARE LEGALLY LIABLE. Don't kill our GWR trains with winter storm broken bits of higher wall we don't need.

 

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leatash
leatash
08 Apr 2019 08:46

Well if Labour win the next election there wont be a problem as Corbyn has promised a new inland electrified line bypassing Dawlish my question is DO PIGS FLY???

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ZIGGY
ZIGGY
08 Apr 2019 18:31

Fears that new Dawlish sea wall will make flooding issue worse

Protesters claim the planned new Dawlish Sea Wall - which will be the height of two double decker buses - will actually make flooding problems worse in the seaside town.

Read more...https://www.devonlive.com/news/devon-news/fears-new-dawlish-sea-wall-2732984

ZIGGY
ZIGGY
09 Apr 2019 11:43

The £30m Dawlish sea wall recommended for approval despite fears 'it will destroy town's charm'

Read more...https://www.devonlive.com/news/devon-news/30m-dawlish-sea-wall-recommended-2736716

maki1
maki1
16 Apr 2019 14:14

Teignbridge Planning Committee approved the application this morning.

 

The Lib Dems led by Martin Wrigley tried to defer it but lost 6-10.  

 

What's really strange, that when approval 'as set out' was moved after deferral was lost, the whole committee voted unanimously in favour (16-0) which included all the lib dems ?!

ZIGGY
ZIGGY
16 Apr 2019 19:15

Dawlish sea wall plans to protect railway for the next 100 years approved despite fears it could 'destroy town’s charm'

Read more...https://www.devonlive.com/news/devon-news/dawlish-sea-wall-plans-protect-2766781

Barbarawils68
Barbarawils68
16 Apr 2019 19:25

I wonder if there is a case for the residents to sue the council for loss of income if the wall's impact does affect tourism? I am sure many would chip in to take on Teignbridge if it does turn out to be an ugly disaster.  Just a thought.

 

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leatash
leatash
17 Apr 2019 07:10

Do we want to protect the railway and Dawlish or not, sea levels are rising storms are getting worse i for one welcome it.  Will it affect tourism i wouldn't think so for one moment but if the line was closed for months that might. 

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Carer
Carer
17 Apr 2019 15:22

@leatash

 

Very true.

 

If the sea wall wasn't strengthened, it would be washed away followed shortly by Marine Parade.  

majorp
majorp
17 Apr 2019 17:12

Is there another way to protect Dawlish and the railway line. Is building the sea wall higher, the only way to afford protection? Councillors appear not to have a clue or are just clueless. How about something to help them, like errecting short sections of scaffold along the sea wall, (Marine Parade. and Sealawn Terrace) temporary of course but at the same height as the intended height of the recommended wall, covered by board. Then everyone can see what it will be like.

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wondering
wondering
17 Apr 2019 19:28

Line needs to be inland 'Dawlish Parkway' ..it is not rocket science the sea will always win.

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leatash
leatash
18 Apr 2019 11:26

So wondering what is your proposed route for Dawlish Parkway and the cost, taking into consideration high speed trains need gradient's of less than 4% and freight trains below 1.5%. My second question is when this new line is built who will maintain the sea wall that protects Dawlish TDC or DCC taking into consideration that it takes DCC three months to fill a pot hole and TDC tell us they are hard up for cash. The solution could possibly be that we could have a huge hike in our council tax ringfenced just for maintaining the wall. And does the sea always win the Dutch manage to keep it out and i believe Dutch engineers had some input into the planning.

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