The £17million trail has won the 'excellence in planning to deliver infrastructure' category of the Royal Town and Planning Institute (South West) awards.
17 million spent on a cycle path - nothing spent on the roads - repeated moans about budget cuts and lack of funding and now they give themselves an award for wasting our money in this way.
When you say "nothing spent on the roads", how about the Highways Agency £1.497 billion budget for financial year 2015/16 alone?
I politely suggest that you actually read the article and accept the benefits that the Exe Trail has brought both economically, environmentally and in terms of health benefits (and therefore easing the burden on the NHS).
Or alternatively, ignore the reality and just slag me off.
The highways agency budget only covers motorways and major A roads. The comment refers to how much DCC and TDC have recently spent on roads and especially in the area covered by the said cycle path. When you talk about realality here is the truth
a) TDC dont want anymore visitors hence the SANGS issues
b) Most of the lycra loonies transport their cycles to the path by car thank god
c) How do they help the local economy when they dont carry any money with them in their skin tight suits.
Its not my turn to slag you off this week
a) not true
b) not true
c) not true
Other than that...
I am not a cyclist but i wonder why cyclist's refuse to use the cycle path on Exeter Road they use the road, the FOOTpath on the other side but not the designated cycle path is it not time that the law is changed making it compulsary for cyclists to use cycle paths when available. Apart from the cycle path argument is it not time that cyclists became aware that the roadf traffic act applies to them as well as other road users. Yesterday while crossing Brunswick Place two cyclists going the wrong way down a one way street shouted at me are you F***** BLIND WATCH WHERE YOUR GOING they then proceded over Jubile Bridge and through red lights into Pierment place.
Those cyclists give the majority of cyclists a bad name. It is inexcusable but have you seen the post on here about the dangerous driver near Morrison's on the A379? Glad I wasn't cycling around there on that day. But I know most drivers are law abiding, so are most cyclists.
Cyclists aren't allowed to cycle on a footway (a footpath alongside a road), this is illegal already.
Road cyclists use the road as opposed to cycle paths where multiple gates and junctions, are considered inconvenient. When they ride 2-3 abreast on busy roads like the A379 it does impede the flow of traffic and overtaking can be dangerous.
I don't know what the answer is, better road awareness and education and stiffer penalties for all road users?
One of those cyclists might be the one we met riding the wrong way down High Street about 9.30 p.m. a few weeks ago. When we remonstrated with him he got quite belligerent & indicated that he wanted us to wind down the window. As we were not quite sure what his intentions were, we drove off, a bit shaken but if we'd run into him, he would probably have said that the car driver was at fault. You can see the arrogant attitude that some of them adopt by the fact that they won't use the cycle path. Presumably they think it's only for plebs!
Should these incidents be viewed as problem with cyclists in general or does Dawlish just have a fair share of dickheads?
There are a group of these lycra clad idiots that ride around the Tesco to Kingsteignton area of Newton Abbot early on Sunday mornings (car boot time ish) We have witnessed them bating car drivers into confrontation on more than one ocassion. They surrouned one elderly couple at the traffc lights just before the turning to Winners 2000 and if we hadnt arrived I dont know what they would have done to them.
Have now bought one of those dash cams and hope to catch them at it this weekend. Dont suppose the Police will do anything though. When did they last prosecute a cyclist
That's right Fred, tarnish the whole cycling community with the same brush, they don't sound like cyclists, just idiots on bikes.
Have a good weekend on your stake out.
The group concerned didnt look like just idiots and certainly werent kids. In fact given that at least half a dozen of them wore the same design of top would surgest they where members of a club, they also had what looked to be expensive cycles.
Im certainly not going on a stake out mission, but do travel the same delivery route each Sunday so if I do come across them the camera will at least identify them and their behavior towards other road users
In my experience "idiots on bikes" form a substantial number in the cycling fraternity.
If you get incriminating footage you should upload it to You Tube so it's there for all to see.
@ Fred, were they riding bmx doing jumps, etc, on mountain bikes, or were they on the road hogging the lane? Just trying to picture it.
@ Burnside, that's subjective, my opinion of your posts is that you rarely have any positive experiences with other human beings.
How about the police doing the odd one day special and fining anyone on a push bike using the pavement! Currently I beleieve it is £85. This would assist other road users who actually pay through the nose to drive on it and give 5-o a bit more income. As to the A379 dangerous driver the video is currently with their video investigation unit being analysed. I think I need to upgrade my camaras in the car.
So cyclists ignoring red lights, riding on pavements, and cycling the wrong way along one-way streets is subjective is it?
Cars regularly jump red lights, I see them mount the pavement on the Strand to get past delivery vans and someone even tried to turn into the Strand at the Co-op end the other day. It's pointless coming up with anecdotes, everyone's got them to suit their own opinion. It would be interesting to know how many collisions there have been, proportionally, due to dangerous driving by drivers and cyclists alike.
No, your comment was subjective.
Not all cyclists are bad, only the ones with legs!
When the Police had there own Traffic Wardens they dealt with cyclists on a regular basis they of course have been replaced by PCSOs who had traffic powers but have recently had them removed. So that leaves Police Officers to deal with all traffic related problems and they drive past cars parked on the ZIG ZAGS A379 Brunswick Place junction on a daily basis so dealing with cyclists not one chance in a million.
It's funny how so many anti-cyclists are fat arsed burger munchers.
And as for WillSmith's deep and meaningful comment, this is what he wrote on here when the Turf Lock to Powderham stretch of the Exe Trail opened:
"Excellent news there! I will be sure to ride my bike along this cycle path."
"It's funny how so many anti-cyclists are fat arsed burger munchers."
Subjective comments are not valid on this thread.
I never said subjective comments weren't valid. I gave my opinion of your miserable posts, That's subjective and valid in my humble opinion.
"cyclists ignoring red lights, riding on pavements, and cycling the wrong way along one-way"
That's against the law, there you were being factual.
Thinking they're all idiots in the cycling fraternity is subjective, It is your opinion and you're welcome to it.
I do wish you had read my post properly Woodcock, is that too much to ask? Where did I write they are "all" idiots?
I do beg your pardon!
Not 'all' just 'a sustantial number'. Though I bet you think they're all idiots really, you seem that sort of person.
I do wish you knew the difference between fact and opinion.
"I bet you think..." "you seem..."
Do you know the difference between fact and opinion?
Yes, I'd 'bet' on it, I have a 'gutt feeling' about this. i'm being very subjective.
Have you got a weight problem? I didn't write the comment about anti-cyclists being fat arsed burger munchers. Although that 'seemed' to touch a nerve.
And if you want to be pedantic about wording. Why do you think subjective comments aren't 'valid' on this thread?
Who wrote that they're not 'valid'. Not me.