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Wot?! No-one got anything to say about the return of the blue passport?

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Lynne
Lynne
24 Dec 2017 07:56

You know, that's the one that could have stayed blue all the time apparently. 

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burneside
burneside
24 Dec 2017 10:16

Regardless of colour, the important thing is that the first two words on the blue passports will be  "United Kingdom", the words European Union will be banished.

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Lynne
Lynne
24 Dec 2017 11:14

But with' Made in Germany' on the bottom.  

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leatash
leatash
24 Dec 2017 11:37

On the 5th June 1975 I voted to join the EU and was promised i would never again need a passport to travel to Europe i always found it annoying that the Europeans can travel from one end of Europe to another without a passport and yet i need a passport to enter Europe.  I suppose nothing changes they lied then and they are still lying now and always will MERRY CHRISTMAS everyone have a great Christmas.

Lynne
Lynne
24 Dec 2017 11:45

Click on this link - it might explain things. ( I'll give you a clue -the UK is not a member of Schengen)

https://www.schengenvisainfo.com/schengen-visa-countries-list/

 

 

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burneside
burneside
24 Dec 2017 12:02

I didn't realise the contract to produce the new passports had been awarded to a German company, is that an actual fact?  Of course, under EU procurement regulations public contracts over a certain value are obliged to be tendered across the EU.  After Brexit, we will be free to "buy British" and support our own industries, that's another way we will be taking back control.

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Lynne
Lynne
24 Dec 2017 12:11

I didn't realise that our post Brexit trade deals had already been sorted out.

Is what you are claiming an actual fact?

 

Do you know something that Liam Fox and David Davies do not?

 

 

majorp
majorp
24 Dec 2017 12:40

I will give my two pennyworth regarding the colour, for what it is worth.

I don't care a toss.

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leatash
leatash
24 Dec 2017 12:52

Lynne i realised that just making a point one of the reasons i voted to join was the promise of no passports for travel to the EU. So in reverse i voted leave and one of the many reasons for doing that was i had been told a load of bull in 1975.

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Lynne
Lynne
24 Dec 2017 13:37

So do I take it then that you would have been equally okay with EU nationals not needing to have a passport in order to enter the UK? 

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burneside
burneside
24 Dec 2017 13:44

@Lynne

Unlike at present, after Brexit we will have the freedom to make individual trade deals with any country in the world, but of course you already know that.

Can you provide the source for your claim that our new blue passports will be produced in Germany?

 

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majorp
majorp
24 Dec 2017 13:47

leatash, 42 yrs ago you have just found out, you  were told a lot of bull. 60 odd yrs ago I found that out - what took you so long? And the bull shit continues.

Lynne
Lynne
24 Dec 2017 13:53

@burneside - your right.

It could equally say 'Fabrique en France' - which in a way would be very appropriate given the amount of French already on the front of our passports.  

flo
flo
24 Dec 2017 14:01

There's 3 companies bidding to produce it, one UK, one French and one German. Sounds like the beginning of an un-PC joke ...

Lynne
Lynne
24 Dec 2017 14:24

@flo laugh

leatash
leatash
24 Dec 2017 17:45

Lynne no i had no problem with other EU nationals having access to the UK without a passport but then it was only Germany, France, Italy, Netherlands, Luxemberg, Denmark, and Ireland.

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Lynne
Lynne
25 Dec 2017 08:36

You left out Belgium.

 

So would something along the lines of the old EEC be more agreeable to you?

 

And the Europeans can only travel from one end of Europe to the other (as you put it in an earlier post on this thread) without a passport because of the Schengen agreement.  Some non EU countries are party to that agreement, other countries who are part of the EU are not party to that agreement eg the UK and the RoI.   

Lynne
Lynne
25 Dec 2017 08:55

Entering the Uk 

You’re from an EEA country or Switzerland

You can enter the UK with either a valid passport or a national identity card issued by a EEA country. It must be valid for the whole of your stay.

flo
flo
25 Dec 2017 22:26

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Diana Mond
Diana Mond
26 Dec 2017 08:30

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Lynne
Lynne
30 Dec 2017 08:52

Just a reminder that if you were born anywhere on the island of Ireland or can prove Irish descent (not sure by how  many generations back) you will be eligible for Republic of Ireland nationality and therefore an Irish passport. Which means you can carry an EU passport and be an EU citizen.

 

So......those UK nationals born in NI can be EU citizens if they so wish. Whilst those born in Scotland, Wales, and England do not have that right unless they have Irish born parents/grandparents. 

 

I am not sure what the situation is with regard to those descended from parents/grandparents born in the other EU countries.       

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