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7 Jan 2018

Plod And I have told you on many occasions that there has been no approval given by the SofS for Transport. But that did not sink in. All you did was claim that LA's could use ANPR in their car parks, but you never qualified that statement. Yes they can use ANPR for management purposes but not for enfocement and that was the crux of my point when using ANPR. To my knowledge, there is nowhere in ...

7 Jan 2018

Plod, you appeared to me and others, that you are some sort of expert on this subject. It has now become clear to me anyway, that you have had crossed wires and not me. I general terms, (because I gather information from the correct sources) I always knew that ANPR is not used officially in any off street car park, but I wasn't going to play my hand on that score. There are many things for ...

6 Jan 2018

Plod For clarity please answer this question: In your opinion can a council enforce their off street car parks under the provisions of the Traffic Management Act 2004 using an ANPR device that has been certified/approved by the secretary of state (via the VCA)? If it has been certified - YES. But the VCA cannot certify anything off it's own back unless the Secretary of State for Transport has made ...

6 Jan 2018

Plod, You my friend are totally missing the point and that point is ANPR cameras can only be used in off street car parks for enforcement purposes, PROVIDING they have been certified for use in such places by the SofS for Transport. The only legislation that I know of is just that, "BEFORE USE, IT HAS TO BE CERTIFIED I have cut and pasted much to show you were you are wrong in your assertions ...

6 Jan 2018

And Thousands of 'rip-off' parking fines dished out in town hall car parks illegally using automatic number plate recognition Thousands of drivers have been illegally handed fines of up to £100 Many town hall car parks are operating outside the law, ministers say This is because they installed a utomatic number plate recognition S ystem has not been approved and it ...

6 Jan 2018

I see there is more than one windup merchant on this site. Approval for ANPR use in car parks has to come from the SofS for Transport not the VCA. VCA only has approval to manufacture.

6 Jan 2018

As far as I am aware, there is no law other than LA's cannot use ANPR cameras to enforce contraventions in their car parks, UNLESS THE DEVICE USED (CAMERA) HAS A CERTIFICATE FROM THE SECRETARY of STATE for TRANSPORT to use it for those purposes. NO CERTIFICATE, NO USE. Just a small snippet from the BPA British Parking  Association) who's many members are LA's have tried for years to get things ...

6 Jan 2018

Plod has demonstrated why ANPR could not be used in LA owned car parks. And to leatash, what could be and what is, are two different things. Swansea Uni is a private car park and the law which covers private car parks, is different than regulated car parks. And before anyone asks. A regulated car park is one owned by a local authority, relevant land is privately owned and the enforcers enforce ...

5 Jan 2018

Plod, Show me which LA in Devon are using ANPR to enforce their car parks, and are they using a device that has been certified by the Secretary of State for Transport? Obtain the certificate and I will rest my case.

5 Jan 2018

I will add further. CEO's carry hand held computor's, the photo's that they take with that hand held cannot be used as evidence because it is not an approved device to do that. So why do they take photo's of your car if they cannot be used as evidence.Simply to back up the arguements should anyone appeal a parking ticket but not as evidence. that is recorded seperately.

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