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thanks at @Lynne this is an interesting thread. @leatash So non-Muslim's nation's never wage war? All some of them seem to do is wage war. Or exploit other nation's resources and labour through other means as I described. Which is like a proxy occupation - neocolonialism. What about corporations within those nations that sell military hardware to anyone will buy them. It's a lucrative ...

leatash
leatash
3 hours ago

My first taste of active service in the late 60s was the Redfan north of Aden we were killing Jiahidists and they were killing us and at this precise moment the same is going on as the area is now Yemen so 47+ years of fighting has solved nothing.   The bottom line is they dont like us and we dont like them and long after i am 6 foot under the Middle East will still be a training ground for ...

Lynne
Lynne
6 hours ago

Article here about how a change in UK foreign policy re the Islamist terrorist threat won't make any difference. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/may/26/delusion-terror-attacks-just-about-foreign-policy and article here about how western military intervention increased terrorist threat to the west. ...

Andrew
Andrew
yesterday at 20:05

@Lynne i completely agree with what you've written and i've definitely learnt more about wahhabism and how it links to the jihadist organizations. military intervention is but one factor and the main/only explanation, because our media, governments, religions, financial institutions, corporations, etc in the west don't want the public to question how the western world's higher standards of living ...

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@Andrew - the reason I referred to western military intervention is because that is so often put forward as the only or main explanation for the rise of Islamist terrorism. It isn't. As you say, anything 'western' or anything indeed within the Muslim world that deviates from Wahhabist fundamentalist beliefs are things not tolerated by the Wahhabist sect.  So a question to be asked (and to ...

Andrew
Andrew
2 days ago

@Lynne you raise some really good points, Does it matter if countries don't intervene militarily in the middle east? They can intervene economically, politically via sanctions, punitive trade deals, debt reparations, etc and also culturally (western fashion, tourism or the media), religiously even, with missionaries, or the growth of secularism and a shift toward westen ways, abandoning customs, ...

Paul
Paul
2 days ago

@Andrew , yes sorry, everything you say is correct, everyone else is wrong. My thoughts are - remove the bad, help the good. Simple!

Andrew
Andrew
2 days ago

@Paul what 'decent people left'? By your logic some of them would be culpable of genocide. Categorizing people into two groups of either a) good and b) bad is very simplistic. And what if some of the 'good' people then turned 'bad'? Would the 'good' people then have to kill some more 'bad' people? Or should killing all the 'baddies' in one fell swoop do the job? And create a prosperous ...

Paul
Paul
2 days ago

So the simple answer is kill ALL the bad guys and then help the descent people left to build prosperous lives.

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