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Lynne
Lynne
27 Aug 2018 17:10

Liberal Democrats across the Newton Abbot constituency have selected Martin Wrigley as their candidate to become the next MP for the Parliamentary seat, which extends from Ipplepen to Kenton, including Teignmouth, Dawlish, Kingsteignton and Newton Abbot.

 

https://newtonabbotlibdems.org/en/

DEEDOODLE
DEEDOODLE
27 Aug 2018 18:53
Lynne
Lynne
27 Aug 2018 19:53
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burneside
burneside
27 Aug 2018 20:24

Since the 2010 general election the Lib Dems have lost 50% of their voters in this constituency, normally I would say Wrigley hasn't got a cat in hell's chance of taking back the seat but

given the parlous state of the Tories and May's total surrender to Brussels I wouldn't say Morris's position is very safe.  One thing I do hope is that Sarah Wollaston in Totnes is kicked out, 

that would give me great pleasure.

 

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Lynne
Lynne
28 Aug 2018 06:29

The nearest candidate to Sarah Wollaston in the 2017 general election was the Labour candidate whose total vote was some 13,000 behind that of SW. 

SW had more votes cast for her than all the other candidates added together. 

http://electionresults.parliament.uk/election/2017-06-08/Results/Location/Constituency/Totnes

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burneside
burneside
28 Aug 2018 11:30

Wollaston needs to retain the support of the local Tory association if she wants to be the Conservative candidate at the next election.  Given her track record of teaming up with

a couple of other traitorous colleagues and voting against the government on key EU withdrawal bills, I wouldn’t say that support can be guaranteed. 

By the way, almost without exception, the electorate in the south west voted for Brexit, including those in Wollaston’s own constituency.

 

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Lynne
Lynne
28 Aug 2018 11:42

Maybe she no longer cares. Country before party and all that.

And a lot of information about the consequences of Brexit have come to light since June 2016
 
 

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burneside
burneside
28 Aug 2018 12:05

I suppose she can always fall back on her medical career.  

We haven't even left the EU yet, an exit agreement has still to be finalised, so any consequences are pure speculation.

Under May's Chequers proposals we won't really be leaving at all, she must think we are all bloody stupid.  Hopefully when parliament resumes

next month a serious challenge to her leadership will take place, and she will be binned in favour of a true Brexit supporting PM.

 

Lynne
Lynne
28 Aug 2018 13:20

A No Deal  hard Brexit for you then?

With all the consequences that such a scenario would bring? 

Perhaps people and businesses need to start thinking through just what that might mean.

 

"amidst all of the technical detail, we understand that real livelihoods are at stake."

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/secretary-of-state-dominic-raabs-speech-on-no-deal-planning

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burneside
burneside
28 Aug 2018 15:07

Before the referendum the terms "soft" and "hard" Brexit did not exist, it was just Brexit.

"Soft Brexit" is something dreamt up by Remainers as a way of keeping us in the EU by the back door, just as May has proposed in her Chequers document.  It won’t wash,

voters can see straight through her duplicity.

We are not negotiating with the EU, they just want abject surrender from the UK.  French President Macron recently stated the EU’s integrity must be protected at all costs.

The government has already said that EU nationals will be able to remain in the UK in the event of no deal being reached.  We don't hear a similar commitment from Brussels,

with them it's all take and no give.

 

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leatash
leatash
28 Aug 2018 15:54

To know that we know what we know, and that we do not know what we do not know, that is true knowledge.

Lynne
Lynne
28 Aug 2018 16:52

@B/S - as I have said before. More information has come out in the past 26 months or so since the referendum as to what leaving the EU might actually mean. Voters are now seeing through the spin they were spun (duplicity?) by the Leave campaign back in 2016.

 

As Dominic Raab, the Brexit Secretary, said only very recently: real livelihoods are at stake.

 

 

burneside
burneside
28 Aug 2018 17:45

Here's a thought, let's implement the decision taken on 23rd June 2016 to leave the EU, then in maybe a decade we can revisit it to see if it has worked out or not.

After all, we had to wait 40 years for another rethink after the 1975 referendum, in which time myriad treaties were brought into force without any of us having a say

in whether we agreed with them.  

Two years on and Remainers still cannot come to terms with the fact they lost the referendum. Just grow up for Christ's sake and stop throwing your toys

out of the pram.

 

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Lynne
Lynne
28 Aug 2018 18:42

Dominic Raab, fervent Brexiteer,  said real livelihoods are at stake, not me.

A thought: if you are telling someone to grow up then you are implying that they are a child. Which is not a very nice thing to say, is it?

Bordering on name calling perhaps?         

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Scapegoat
Scapegoat
28 Aug 2018 19:34

Burnside, yet again showing his true self devil

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Diana Mond
Diana Mond
28 Aug 2018 19:50

Someone who, on this very thread, calls MP’s “traitors”, isn’t really in a position to tell others to grow up.

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burneside
burneside
28 Aug 2018 20:31

Remain MPs and their supporters are attempting to overturn one of the largest votes this country has seen in modern times, "traitors" is entirely appropriate, may be even a tad too polite.

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Diana Mond
Diana Mond
28 Aug 2018 21:22

A lie. Just like the many lies that you Leavers and your media peddled two years ago. 

Few objectors want to overturn the 2016 vote. Many believe that MPs should have a vote on the final terms of the exit. 

Thank god that the Internet didn’t exist 1914-18, as no doubt the likes of Burneside would have trolled WWI conscientious objectors and called them “traitors”.  Whilst at the same time applauding the patriots that, safely homed and living a life of luxury 100’s of miles away, forced hundreds of thousands of working class young men to their certain deaths. 

That is an analogy by the way. Before your sister (if she hasn’t been banned from here) jumps in. 

 

Diana Mond
Diana Mond
28 Aug 2018 21:31

PS. Back to the thread subject, Wrigley has absolutely no chance. Like he didn’t have in North Devon at the last election before he threw in the towel there before polling had even started. I think a lot of people will see him as the professional politician wannabe that he is. 

“For himself, not the many”.

burneside
burneside
28 Aug 2018 21:32

I thought it was impossible to get banned from this forum, Mrs C, if it was you wouldn't be able come back endlessly with yet another username each time.

Diana Mond
Diana Mond
28 Aug 2018 21:39

Bless you Burneside. Brotherly love is so sweet. Now there are less of you mindlessly reporting....

burneside
burneside
28 Aug 2018 21:42

What would be the outcome of MPs voting to reject the terms of our exit, or even no deal at all.  Do they think we will just stay in the EU as if the referendum had never taken place?

burneside
burneside
28 Aug 2018 21:43

So how many times have you now been banned Mrs C?  And yet here you are again.

Diana Mond
Diana Mond
28 Aug 2018 21:44

“What would be the outcome of MPs voting to reject the terms of our exit”

 

They would be shot at dawn. As traitors should be...

burneside
burneside
28 Aug 2018 21:47

So you don't have a sensible answer then, Remoaners never do.

Diana Mond
Diana Mond
28 Aug 2018 21:50

“So how many times have you now been banned Mrs C?  And yet here you are again.”

You tell us. And then shoot me. 

Diana Mond
Diana Mond
28 Aug 2018 21:56

“So you don't have a sensible answer then, Remoaners never do.”

 

Pointless, as sensible and Brexit Fundamentalists don’t mix very well. 

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wondering
wondering
28 Aug 2018 22:29

I wish the Remoaners who love EU so much would just move over there and leave is in peace!

The vote was OUT ...get over it!

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Lynne
Lynne
29 Aug 2018 06:56

Foul!

The term Remoaner is used in a derogatory sense and is therefore a form of name calling. (But if the expression Remoaner is acceptable for use on this site then how about Brexitard and/or Brexiturd? Are they accptable as well?) 

Thought we didn't do name calling on this site anymore.   

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flo
flo
29 Aug 2018 09:50

i fear double standards on this site @Lynne.  some people seem to get away with being really vile.

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Lynne
Lynne
29 Aug 2018 10:24

As we're on the subject of Brexit.......there's a piece in today's Dawlish Gazette - see page 4.  Article headed: Councillor: We're not prepared for Brexit

burneside
burneside
29 Aug 2018 10:25

You left out Brexshitters, that's always a firm favourite used by Remoaners.  And when all else fails they just resort to accusing Leavers of being a Russian bot.

 

burneside
burneside
29 Aug 2018 10:31

@flo

The day after the referendum you announced that you were deleting your account on this forum.  What happened?

flo
flo
24 Jun 2016 08:46

This site has turned into a nasty toxic little place with no monitoring from the @webmaster.  I do wonder if what some people on this board actually talk to people in real life in the same way or hide behind their profiles in order that they might spout bile.

Anyway, I guess it's bye bye Europe and bye bye Dawlish.com from me.

<account deleted>

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Lynne
Lynne
29 Aug 2018 11:13

She changed her mind! (people do you know laugh)

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flo
flo
29 Aug 2018 12:03

I didn't change my mind.  I set my account to delete but I guess it's another thing that doesn't work along with capital letters and cut and paste.

Why Burnside how does it affect you, you've obviously searched through posts to find that? I've noted that there's a lot of snideness on here which just stops from name calling, to keep on the right side of the rules I guess. I'm happy to have a personal chat with any of you who have an issue with me and my views, just inbox me.

elvis presley
elvis presley
29 Aug 2018 12:19

Sorry flo , this is The Hotel California

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flo
flo
29 Aug 2018 13:11

more twilight zone @elvis presley

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deadpan
deadpan
29 Aug 2018 13:40

I thought this was Hotel Trump. There has been so much bickering, so many misleading comments, so many unanswered questions, so on and so forth. Some do not like what others have said about them, others claim to know more than they really do and others that don't know will make it up.

So I think Hotel Trump fits the bill quite nicely. 

What do others think?

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