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Brooklyn Bridge
Brooklyn Bridge
11 Jun 2018 17:23

It has come to my attention from a reliable source that Dawlish Council are in early talks about banning dogs from the Dawlish lawn area. Also they are in early talks about where the new play park is going to be located. That location is going to be outside the tourist and toilets area where all the scrubbery and trees are. As I said this is only being considered.  In my opinion neither works for me. Your views please.

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flo
flo
11 Jun 2018 18:27

Something else that won't be enforced.  Don't particularly agree with either of those but I have the feeling there's a push for the play park whether it's wanted or not.  I'm sure I'll be proved wrong when Dawlish is flooded with parents wanting to play and shop.

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Dil
Dil
11 Jun 2018 19:57

Agreed I think there's a push for the park which I'd rather there wasn't as we already have one in Manor Park/gardens, but if there has to be one then outside the tourist and toilets area would be best of a bad job. Also I would tend to support dogs on leads in the lawn area, it isn't really that sort of area for having dogs bounding about at will, there are other areas for that and Manor Park/gardens could be dogs off the lead area as it is now, so win win for everyone perhaps. I know there will always be those who will not take any notice of it but at least people will know what is right or wrong if nothing else and hopefully the majority would abide by the ban. I know it possibly doesn't happen quite that much on the lawn as it may do in manor gardens, but I do regularly see in Manor gardens dogs off their leads and the owners socialising with others on their walks and because it is quite a sloped area some of the time their dog will be out of view between the brook and the childrens play area and certainly have seen times when the owner can't have witnessed the dog having a poo and therefore doesn't get picked up!

Diana Mond
Diana Mond
11 Jun 2018 20:02

Hopefully dogs will be banned from the Lawn which, given the recent attack on our Swans, will surely have the support of most people in the town? Hopefully, anyway. 

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monty
monty
11 Jun 2018 20:16

What a knee jerk reaction. There are laws in place on the lawn regarding dogs on leads. Just enforce it. Lots of holiday makers have picnics on the lawn with their dogs on leads. Banning dogs would not have stopped the killing of the swan. Those people flout the laws openly, but no one enforces it. This would put me off as a tourist if I couldn't walk my dog sensibly on the Lawn.  There are few enough places where one can walk ones pooch. 

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Lynne
Lynne
12 Jun 2018 08:40

Dogs to be on leads or dogs not allowed at all? If either or those how will it be enforced? Who will enforce it? Who will pay for the enforcer(s) to enforce it? How much will it cost to enable the enforcer(s) to enforce it? etc etc. 

Or will there just be signs telling people of the lead requirement/dog ban? 

Loads of holidaymakers walk along the sea wall from the Warren with kids and dogs.  So what happens when they get to the town and the kids want to play in the playpark/on the lawn but the dog is not allowed?   

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majorp
majorp
12 Jun 2018 10:34

Lynne, just like parking controls, it should and would be self finacing. If it is'nt, then the enforcers have done a good job by not having people breaking the bye-law or they have not done a good job and the burden of employing the enforcers fall on the tax payer and dogs roam around at their pleasure.

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Lynne
Lynne
12 Jun 2018 10:48

So if it is self financing then:

1. A lot of people will need not only to infringe the dog legislation but also to be caught infringing it 

or

2.A target will need to be set whereby a certain number of people will need to be fined (whether or not they have infringed the law) in order for the self financing target to be met.  Can you imagine that?

 

So I reckon it will either be signage only or enforcers who are paid for in full or subsidised in part, via the taxpayer.

flo
flo
12 Jun 2018 11:00

How about locals with pitchforks?  I'm sure they'd do it for free.

DEEDOODLE
DEEDOODLE
12 Jun 2018 11:27

@Diana Mond - 'will surely have the support of most people in the town', sigh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Diana Mond
Diana Mond
12 Jun 2018 11:37

@DEEDOODLE i kindly ask that you please don’t drag yet another important thread down. thank you. 

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DEEDOODLE
DEEDOODLE
12 Jun 2018 13:16

@Diana Mond - i was merely using your own words.

 

As to an important thread, yes it is important from the view point of the potential banning of dog's on The Lawn.

From your post on this thread (11 June 2018 20:02) you seem happy to stop dog walker's from excercising their dogs on The Lawn, but seem unaware/ignorant to the fact that the potential for attacks on swans and other wildfowl along The Lawn/Brook would not stop this happenning.

No more than the order in place on The Lawn prohibiting drinking etc.

What is required is for the authorities in charge..police, Dawlish council to act on any attacks on wildfowl on The Lawn/Brook and not just pass the buck and/or side step the issue.

As to me dragging down yet another important thread, I feel that is a bit rich coming from you. In my opinion.

 

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