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Lynne
Lynne
11 Feb 2018 17:47

Does anyone know what legal notice(s) (if any) have to be given before a road designated as a through road, then gets blocked off and to all intents and purposes becomes a cul-de-sac. 

 

 

Plod
Plod
11 Feb 2018 18:15

It depends on what legislation has been used to implement it. For example. Temporary road closures to faciliate road works are possible under section 14 Road Traffic Regulation Act 1984 but a permanent no access for motor vehicles would be done under section 1 Road Traffic Regulation Act 1984. Notices would be advertised and/or placed in the street.

It is also possible for a stopping up order to be made under section 116 The Highways Act 1980 or under sections 247 & 248 Town & Country Planning Act 1990. Those affected should be consulted.

 

 

Lynne
Lynne
11 Feb 2018 18:48

Okay, so.........let us say. just for the sake of argument, that a new house building development takes place. One of the new roads in this development is planned to be a through road but then seemingly someone, somewhere, decides that it shouldn't be a through road after all and bollards get put on it to stop vehicular traffic from using it as a through road. 

In those circumstances what, if any, official notice(s), would the highways authority have to give and to whom? 

Plod
Plod
11 Feb 2018 19:14

It's difficult to be precise without knowing the legislation used and the legal status of the road but let's say its public highway maintained at public expense and traffic is denied entry either under section 1 or 14 Road Traffic Regulation Act 1984. Section 1 will require consultation and public notices to follow http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1996/2489/regulation/7/made

section 14 temporary orders will follow http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1992/1215/regulation/3/made

section 14 temporary notices (usually only used for emergency works like gas leaks or fallen trees) follow http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1992/1215/regulation/10/made

flo
flo
11 Feb 2018 21:16

They're talking about changing part of the name/postcode of the infamous road through the new estate

Lynne
Lynne
12 Feb 2018 07:36

A change of name for one part? Well.........as the street names are a bit Frenchified around that way and as the change of name is needed seemingly because of some huge mess up howsabout...........

Balleds Up Boulevard

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Diana Mond
Diana Mond
12 Feb 2018 08:35

Hopefully the residents aren’t rueing the day they moved there.

 

I'm here all week...

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Lynne
Lynne
12 Feb 2018 09:04

Very witty DM, very witty.

 

and on that theme perhaps another name might be

Rue Street   

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ShyTalk 47
ShyTalk 47
12 Feb 2018 10:41


So the entire Bovis/Cavanna estate remains a cul de sac for years to come.  Leaving access at the discretion of a few inconsiderate parkers in the event of emergency vehicle attendance.  Also continuing annoyance to the residents of Elm Grove Road, the only really practical route (Rue?) to civilisation.

Thank goodness we now have one piece of infrastructure in the form of a shop (albeit expensive, but useful).

Oh, and a nursery and a couple of schools if you are still of breeding age!

ShyTalk 47
ShyTalk 47
12 Feb 2018 11:10

New name?  Hows about Car Free Hay?

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Dil
Dil
12 Feb 2018 12:28

Copib Way, proverbably Couldn't Organise Piss-up In Brewery!

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Lynne
Lynne
13 Feb 2018 07:25

To be serious for a moment. Think on this.

If. for the sake of arguement, part of the present CW did have a name change then I wonder how that might impact on the ability of those living there to get things like credit cards/open bank accounts/get passports etc.

 

I haven't needed to open anything like that for ages but I seem to vaguely recall that you get asked how long you have been living at your present address and if you haven't been living at it for something like the past three years then you need to give previous addresses. etc etc

 

The point I am trying to make is that if the name of part of CW were to be changed in order to resolve certain problems, given the presence of the bollards,

then might such a change in name cause other problems for the residents instead?

 

Law of unintended consequences and all that (and CW does seem to be such a classic example of that).       

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