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New Play Park - Part 3

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ZIGGY
ZIGGY
08 Sep 2017 10:45
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Lynne
Lynne
14 Sep 2017 16:08
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Diana Mond
Diana Mond
14 Sep 2017 17:24

Politics by petition seems to be this pseudo-independent "politicians" way of doing business.  She's clearly one of those here on dawlish.com who completely misunderstands the wording of the results of the consultation, and seeing as she was elected by little more than 20% of the Dawlish Central electorate, she's hardly in a position to talk about mandate. She has also implied that the consultation is flawed because full name and address details weren't given - what does her petition ask virtual signatories to provide? Oh!

 

Of course, if she gains 5,600+ signatures then fair enough.  Presumably she will then campaign for a new bandstand that'll apparently attract lots of families to the Lawn all year round. 

 

Lynne
Lynne
14 Sep 2017 17:37

The online petition asks for a first name, a last name, an email address and a postcode.

(and before anyone says that these details could be made up - so equally, I imagine, could the same details have been made up by those participating in the consultation questionnaire).

As least we have a councillor trying to address the concerns of some of the electorate.

 

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Diana Mond
Diana Mond
14 Sep 2017 18:44

She's not addressing the concerns of the few, if she was she would be in actual direct dialogue with the District Council. This is, yet again, all about getting her name in the papers. 

 

You yourself have entered into dialogue with councillors, albeit through the medium of the letters page of the Dawlish Gazette. I trust that you're satisfied with the robust response you received. 

Diana Mond
Diana Mond
14 Sep 2017 22:31

"I've got 99 problems..."

 

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burneside
burneside
14 Sep 2017 23:18

Mrs M, your mask is slipping.

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Lynne
Lynne
15 Sep 2017 07:00

@D. Mond.  going off subject.  You might think Cllr Clemens' response was robust. I thought he said exactly what I had expected him to say. 

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Diana Mond
Diana Mond
15 Sep 2017 08:04

So you received answers to questions that you already knew the answers to? Seems like a waste of time in that case. 

Lynne
Lynne
15 Sep 2017 08:50

But others may well have been interested in the questions I asked and the answers that were given. 

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DEEDOODLE
DEEDOODLE
15 Sep 2017 10:24

@Diani Mond - other than to say the Last public questionaire on the subject of the play park on The Lawn was in actual fact Teignbridge wide and not just Dawlish. There was no breakdown of the results by location and if you take the popualation of Teignbridge, no just dawlish, the results are painted in a totally different light.

As I have repeated so many times. You cannont have a questionaire and not have a question within it that enables people to say NO to what is being proposed. Neither can you just discard parts of the questionaire i.e. the comments for public viewing when they are so relevant to the subject in hand.

This site is for all to express their opinions,  not to be persecuted for them.

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Diana Mond
Diana Mond
15 Sep 2017 12:01

Who's being persecuted? What a random thing to write. 

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Lynne
Lynne
16 Sep 2017 09:20

To all those who have concerns about the format of the original questionnaire and how the answers to that format were subsequently used to argue for a playpark on the lawn.

 

Whilst I do not know, and am in no way involved in, the editorial decision of what gets published and what does not get published in the Gazette I feel pretty sure that the recent petition set up by Alison Foden may feature in this coming Wednesday's edition.  

 

It is controversial.

 

So now might be the time for those who support the petition (and I presume who also therefore support the person who has set it up) to explain in their own words, via the Gazette's letters' page, just what it is that concerns them. I appreciate that writing a letter to a paper may come easier to some (cough, cough) than others but it is a way of getting concerns and information out to a much wider audience than just posting on this website. 

 

If you do not wish to give your name and address on the letter ask the Gazette if they would just put 'name and address supplied' instead. I believe they sometimes do that. 

 

Here are the contact details:  email: editorial@dawlishnewspapers.co.uk

Letters should be no more than about 300 words and must carry a postal address in all cases. Please include a daytime telephone number. Anonymous letters cannot be considered.

 

Deadline for receipt of letters to be published in this coming Wednesday's Gazette is usually around about noon on Monday.

 

Thank you.   

Diana Mond
Diana Mond
16 Sep 2017 10:55

It's up to 121 signatures now. 1% of the Dawlish population. No wonder she's gone begging to the Gazette for publicity! 

Lynne
Lynne
16 Sep 2017 11:04

 Re your last sentence DM. 

Do you have any proof to substantiate that allegation?  

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Duckileaks
Duckileaks
16 Sep 2017 12:50

@D.Mond  using your 1% of population figure - do you also thnk it fair that 100% of the population get that large chunk of the lawn taken away from them by a decision made from a survey of only approx 5% of the population?

 

(and before anyone bangs on about democracy it's also democracy that allows petitions if you don't agree with a decision made by your elected representatives)

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DEEDOODLE
DEEDOODLE
16 Sep 2017 14:00

@Diana Mond, possibly.....sigh!

Diana Mond
Diana Mond
16 Sep 2017 14:27

Talk about being persecuted for having an opinion!

 

Lynne, it's not an allegation, it was whimsy. I know you're big mates with pseudo-independent Ms Foden, so I guess that's why you're so defensive of her. 

Lynne
Lynne
16 Sep 2017 15:09

Well that whimsy of yours (about AF going to the Gazette) could easily be interpreted as being a statement of fact. 

And can you prove what you say about my being big mates with Alison Foden or is that yet another whimsy of yours?

 

From the terms and conditions of use of this website:

You agree, through your use of Dawlish.com, that you will not post any material which is knowingly false and/or defamatory, inaccurate, abusive, vulgar, hateful, harassing, obscene, profane, sexually oriented, threatening, invasive of a person's privacy, or otherwise violative of any law.

 

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ZIGGY
ZIGGY
16 Sep 2017 15:41

Maybe the best and safest place for the play park would be Sandy Lane. There are all the sporting facilities in that area e.g The skate park, Tennis courts, Football pitch, Astro turf, Bowling green and The leisure centre.

A nice big colourfull sign pointing people in that direction would help also you can park in the car park all day for £1.50 which has toilets.

I can understand the traders wanting the park on the lawn so people will spend money in the shops but most families do not have a lot of spare cash.

I did see quite a few people having their picnic in that area over the holidays and children trying to have fun in the play park with it's small amount of equipment also a lot of parents and their children head for the park after school.

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Lynne
Lynne
18 Sep 2017 08:38

I cannot prove what I am about to say (because I am not privy to town council emails) but I don't doubt for one moment  that the proverbial manure has been/is/and will be hitting the fan because of this petition and most, if not all, of the manure will be going in the direction of Cllr Foden.

 

So......if you support the petition/have concerns etc about the original consultation it might be an idea to let the other town councillors know that you support Cllr Foden's efforts on your behalf.

 

If you click on the link below you will see how to contact all the town councillors.  I'd suggest doing one email to all of them so that all of them get the same thing and none can say that they didn't get it.

 

http://www.dawlish.gov.uk/members.php  

 

(PS - to DM - no-one has asked me to post this). 

TheObserver
TheObserver
19 Sep 2017 16:34

It is quite clear from the response here, that it is very much undedcided and split between what should happen. So take it to a public poll I say, if Dawlish want's it they will turn up, if they don't they won't. 

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