General Discussion
And the point is? we know that landlords recieve HB but so does the tenant they recieve it and pass it to the Landlord in truth some folk dont pay rent the tax payer does all i can say is thank you the hard working tax payers who pay my rent. I will add i have worked every day of my life now retired and reaping the BENIFITS.
I've just looked at the article that roberta gave us the link to. Here it is again - just click on it.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/ampp3d/interactive-housing-benefit-millionaires-your-5569676
If you read it and scroll down you will see that there is a way of finding out about HB in the local area - in this case Teignbridge. Type in Teignbridge and do a search. You will then get our local info. (or look at the posting below).
Teignbridge
Private landlords get 54.5% of £35.01Mhousing benefit.
Top landlords in this area are:
| Landlord | Amount | |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | Harbuck Housing | £246,838 |
| 2 | Home Farm Trust | £101,591 |
| 3 | Cornerstone | £97,764 |
| 4 | New Dawn Lettings | £90,844 |
| 5 | Devon Rose | £82,270 |
| 6 | Freshmove Properties | £48,532 |
| 7 | Shared Lives South West | £45,970 |
| 8 | Easylet Properties | £45,258 |
| 9 | Name not disclosed | £34,533 |
| 10 | Barley Manor Properties | £34,401 |
| 11 | Milestone Estate Agents | £33,361 |
| 12 | Name not disclosed | £33,147 |
| 13 | Mencap | £32,024 |
| 14 | Name not disclosed | £29,340 |
| 15 | Cameron Trust | £29,299 |
| 16 | Name not disclosed | £27,637 |
| 17 | Accommo-Let | £25,328 |
| 18 | Force & Sons | £24,343 |
| 19 | Chamberlains | £21,512 |
| 20 | Carrick Johnson | £21,462 |
NB: we don't have data for all councils, and this is a publication of all names as given to us via FOIs from the union GMB.
There's no suggestion that the landlords on this list have done anything wrong in providing housing. But given the housing crisis and the dire need to build more houses in the social and private sector it raises the question whether paying private landlords billions a year to host the poor is the best use of government money.
There is a lot of housing benefit abuse. Many people who could pay for themselves by going to work just can't be bothered.
You've only got one life - live it, don't waste it by being slack.
I wonder if high rents and low wages might have something to do with the HB Bill?
And then of course.........if this Tory government does indeed introduce Right to Buy for all HA tenants in affordable rented accommodation, thereby reducing the amount of stock available to rent at lower than market rents, then surely as night follows day the HB bill will increase as even more people will have to rent in the private sector, where rents are higher.
And the HB bill by the way increased during the coalition government's tenure in office.
Lynne you cant educate some people the read the Dailyfail and watch all the propaganda benefit programmes on ch4 and ch5
Roberta, some people read the 'Dailyfail' and can still think for themselves.
Sweeping generalisations don't really promote a point of view any more than Paul's idea that all people claiming benefits are work-shy layabouts.
Sorry Duckileaks that comment was aimed at Paul and I should have made it clear it was not a sweeping generalisation
Its a strange situation we find ourselves in Maggie gives fiolk the right to buy they then sell to a private landlord and he or she recieves HB for a house or flat that once belonged to the same authority that now administers HB and Cameron wants to repeat the process now is that mad or what.
Yep selling council houses is a stupid idea.
However the Daily Mail just reports unbaised news, whereas your awful Labour loving Guardian slags off everything but never gives an alternative solution.
@Roberta. I thought the Daily Mirror was labour party loving, not the Guardian. but I could be wrong.
There are solutions give local councils the power to build thousands of houses for rent to local residents taking them away from private landlords, or increase the minimum wage to £12 per hour and stop folk claiming HB and the tax payer subsidizing employer's.
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/may/29/household-benefit-cap-plunge-40000-kids-poverty-memo
If you want local housing for local people then County Council Home Choice schemes will either have to be abolished or radically reformed.
The idea of local housing for local people would affect the movement of citizens between different parts of the country.
How does this balance with movement of people between different countries?
You can't really support local housing for local people whilst at the same time supporting unfettered immigration.
When i was young (many moons ago) there was in my home county of Cumbria a system in place for housing and it worked something like this. You met a girl courted for a long time eventualy asked her father for her hand and got engaged then put your names on the housing list. A house would then be offered after 12 to 18 months you then got married moved into the house and saved like hell for a deposit on your own home eventualy you obtained a mortgage sometimes private in my case from my fathers solicitor. You then saved your deposit and moved leaving your social housing for the next couple and that was the way folk got on the housing ladder. Now things have moved on but maybe it's time to throw away the chains of the E.U and get back to basics and give our young people a chance to rent affordable housing giving them a shot at eventually buying their own home.
In a couple of generations this discussion will be pretty much academic for the retired anyway.
The new NEST pensions (and similar), whilst not being enough for a decent living standard, will take people above the threshold for many benefits and reduce payments to those still eligible.
....but surely this couldn't have been the original intention? Could it?
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How did you get the list of landlords ?
By the way that only shows direct payments doesn't incude where tenant receives HB
look at my posting dated 27th May @08.39
that will tell you how I found that list of landlords
Thank you,
The lists are useless I just looked at the district i'm involved with, quite pleased they are not accurate