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Dawlish News
Dawlish News
26 Aug 2014 20:36
On arrival at Hospital Hill crews from Dawlish and Teignmouth discovered the front of a shop with a flat above where the masonry around the dormer had collapsed.
 
 
Mcjrpc
Mcjrpc
31 Aug 2014 12:24

I presume it's that dump Ryders Bakery.  When I went past the other day there was still a pile of rubble on the pavement with the timber of the upstairs bay exposed.  Do we really have to put up with the shameful neglect of commercial property or does someone have to get crushed before we hear the much parroted 'lessons will be learned'.    Would be interested to know if Ryders could face any action for letting it get into such a state. 

 

 

Purrrrrfect
Purrrrrfect
31 Aug 2014 15:51

I had only walked past the bakery the day before and noticed the 2 large cracks either side of the window of the upstairs flat. I'm sure Ryders have got enough dough to fix it though! 

Judith Chalmers
Judith Chalmers
31 Aug 2014 16:13

Haven't they applied for planning permission to turn it into residential premises?  No excuses though for neglecting the property. 

Purrrrrfect
Purrrrrfect
02 Sep 2014 13:32

Walked past yesterday evening and the pavement was still blocked with the debri. Just waiting for the rest of it to come down on someones head!

fannyann
fannyann
02 Sep 2014 17:08

Outrageous, what an eyesore, and a danger. Wheelchairs and prams are having to go on the road, surely the council can enforce the owner to make the premises safe. and clear up the mess. Lucky no body was underneath when it went. It's not long since the back of the premises was leaking filthy water and rubbish everywhere and it had salmonella in it. Anybody walking through the back lane could have walked salmonella into their homes. Surely the building needs to be condemmed.

Dorian
Dorian
02 Sep 2014 17:24

If they're prepared to let the property get into that state,  imagine their ovens,no  

 

 

roberta
roberta
04 Sep 2014 07:23

Dorian, they moved out ages ago

fannyann
fannyann
04 Sep 2014 18:28

Yes but some poor person was living there.

 

Dorian
Dorian
04 Sep 2014 20:16

Yes, if you want to live in your own slum, fine, but having others live there isn't.   The masonry has gone now but you should take a look at the side and rear flat roof (even after the alley has been cleared).  It's disgusting!   Maybe one of our Councillors will look into it.  Michael? You always seem very helpful...

michaelclayson
michaelclayson
04 Sep 2014 22:11

Is anyone actually living there now?

michaelclayson
michaelclayson
04 Sep 2014 22:21

I could ask TDC environmental health to investigate, but it would be good to hear (By private message preferably) from anyone with some definite information, not speculation

Pete
Pete
04 Sep 2014 23:07

It has been empty for some time . . definite..

Mcjrpc
Mcjrpc
05 Sep 2014 11:14

My gripe is not to do with whether anyone is living there, but rather it being a long-neglected property, an eyesore for the town and a hazard for near neighbours.   Are there no obligations on landlords to maintain property, particularly commercial property?  Otherwise, as seems to be the case here, there is every incentive to let a building decay until eventually planning for private dwellings is approved.  It's a win-win for the landlord - no maintenance costs and a cash-in on the change of use.   

michaelclayson
michaelclayson
05 Sep 2014 12:45

@Mcjrpc

 

As I understand it - Owners of any property have obligations towards public safety, but I'm not sure that this extends to aesthetics.  As always there is always an issue about when it is appropriate for a district council to intervene.  How bad is bad enough, given that enforcement is a cost to the taxpayer.  We'd all say instinctively act sooner rather than later, but the costs across the whole district would quickly multiply.  

 

 

fannyann
fannyann
05 Sep 2014 12:57

I was told by someone who lives next door that there was definately someone living there. Apparantly an employee of the bakery.

Dorian
Dorian
05 Sep 2014 13:28

The window is open and I could have sworn I saw the light on but after Pete's post I thought I was mistaken.  Michael's right about not speculating but since the masonry fell it isn't just about aesthetics and surely it's time for the council to investigate.

michaelclayson
michaelclayson
05 Sep 2014 14:14

Sorry if I wasn't being clear Dorian

my comment about aesthetics was general, not about this specific site

i don't think I should get into detailed discussion online about a private situation, suffice to say that TDC are aware of the poor state of the property.

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Dorian
Dorian
05 Sep 2014 14:39

Thank you for the information Michael.  As with Flo's post about the Leisure Centre, it's good to know there's been communication. 

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Margaret Swift
Margaret Swift
07 Sep 2014 13:52

Dorian I think you are right that there is someone living there. I passed on Friday evening and a window was open but closed yesterday. It certainly looks as though the property is inhabited.

 

roberta
roberta
07 Sep 2014 15:42

If somebody is living there surely its up to them to complain, not for us to stick our noses in.

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Dorian
Dorian
07 Sep 2014 19:24

Sticking your nose in when masonry collapsed on to the high street?  Yeah, walk on by, it's nobody's business

 

In the meantime a man was out watering the hanging baskets on the Strand today, presumably paid for by us.   Why shouldn't we have expectations of shop owners?  What's the point in bothering to improve this town if that's everyone's attitude.  

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roberta
roberta
07 Sep 2014 19:44

Masonry falling was not what I was getting at. If there is a tenant its up to them to complain, not fo us to speculate on their living conditions. How do you or I know if the inside is up to standard or not. Dont judge a book by its cover.  The danger of the building will be in the hands of the authorities now as the emergency services attended, its up to them, not for us to speculate. What my house looks like inside is my concern and nobody elses smiley

Dorian
Dorian
07 Sep 2014 21:41

I think you're mistaken, no-one has speculated about the inside.

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