General Discussion
When is the wall that has fallen on the road by the Teignmouth Inn
going to be removed?Or is it to become a Dawlish Heritage Site
I understand that it is an insurance responsibility not a county council one but imagine the county council is liaising with the insurance company.
If you want anymore info than that then suggest you contact John Clatworthy our county councillor.
Perhaps local businesses should claim for the amount of time we are spending sat at the traffic lights waiting on a daily basis, bet they would soon clear it up then. As said on another thread why dont DCC clear it away and send them the bill.
Oh well it rained heavily overnight and it is still there, so maybe now someone will do something about it.
Why not ask who's responsiblity the wall is and pressure them to get the repair carried out. DCC cannot continually pick up the bill for other peoples liability and if they move the rubbish then DCC become liable for the repair and perhaps that is what the owners want.
Three sets of traffic lights between the Dawlish and Teignmouth and the Wall is still
on the road.Lights at Holcombe and nobody doing anything not even a shovel.
But there is a telephone engineer who has created a single lane by working on
a junction box by the Cliffden.
I've been told, and by a very reliable source, that the wall (or what is left of it) is listed.
Which apparently means that getting the whole thing sorted out and cleared away will take some time.
Hence the wall is still on the road and hasn't been cleared away yet.
I am only telling all of you what was told to me (so please don't shoot this particular messenger).
Ta.
PS There is a joke there somewhere about a wall being so listed that it fell over.
Thanks for that info. There is a consultation form you can fill in if you have any strong feelings about the traffic situation through Kenton. Think this is probably one for the residents, however, as they seem to have been experiencing problems due to the very narrow road without a pavement through the Southtown part of the village.
Have never heard of a wall being listed before. Does it have any architectural merit? Perhaps the National Trust should adopt it & show visitors round.
Does that mean the wall is worth getting the Time Team in.
From my history lessons I must of been absent the day my
teacher told about the Roman invasion of Dawlish and their
use of breezeblocks.
@Lynne i think you misheard lynne it is not listed but listing. we also need a sign in the town pointing to the ancient ruin.
@kenny - didn't mishear - it was written correspondence. but perhaps the person who told me confused listed with listing?
Must say though, that there does seem to be an awful lot of stonewalling in terms of resolving this issue.
Something is happening, when I went past earlier there was fencing on the top level along with a portable loo and a chap in a hard hat, also a maintenance contractors van
Let's not get bogged down with what's going on at the top of the wall,it's the big do-do's
at the bottom.
He will probably be the Polish night watchman making sure no one comes along to steal the ancient building blocks. His mates and their wifes. kids, brothers etc will be over on the next boat. Thats what we have been waiting for.
Why not its a country of free speech. Wait till the next election and victory for UKIP or the BNP there will be plenty of comments like mine then. Tell me whats racist about the truth this country is far to soft on on letting anyone walk in and the news is full of such stories at the moment. I suppose you think the Americans, Austrailians etc are racist because of their strict border controls. On the other hand your maybe Polish and sending British earned money or benifits back to your country to fund the next influx.
Get real and smell the coffee our great Country is being overrun and the tax payer is footing the bill.
Back to the Wall
They could still move the bloody rubble out of the road after all its
not the Elgin marbles.What if we all sent in an invoice for the time
and petrol spent at the lights.and give the money to charity?
Might get someone to move fat arses.
I have to make the triip from Dawlish to Teignmouth three or four times a day and its just becoming a joke what the hell we pay road tax on our cars for i've no idea. The idiots have even blocked the back way now by digging up the Exeter Road junction in Teignmouth. Why when the tourist season is upon us do they start all this after doing nothing over the Winter.
As for the wall debris JTT have got enougth plant on site locally to remove the stuff even if its dumped in a neat pile on Barton car park for now.
The fact is that the authorities are more concerened with passing the book or maybe the cost of doing a stupid risk assessment stops things progressing.
Dave Mathews is a Teignmouth and Teignbridge councillor he is also the M.D. of Baileys civil engineering in Dawlish , come on Dave get a digger and waggon down there and clear it up.
Who owns the wall and who owns the road and who has made the decision to allow this debris
to remain where it is.
Could be cleared in a couple of hours so why no answers from the jobsworth.
Is there anyone out there? Bloody jokes over
As it's a highways matter it involves Devon County Council. So why not ask County Councillor Clatworthy what is going on, who owns what, and why the delay? etc.
When the wall opposite the old Post Office fell into the brook it took many months to sort out only because it was listed.
I love the new parking idea. Spend money on a new pavement then park on it this a fantastic and great idea.
@Onport1968 racist fredbasset may be but his statements on the uk being to soft on imigration are correct. we have let too many people come into the uk and that is now giving us all the problems we have on, housing, transport, & health service.
@kenny. Fred Bassett is not racist,he could have said it a bit differently,and I agree with him. and I agree with you.That was the Labour partys fault, letting anybody in. Now you know why the UKIP are gaining in popularity.And I will NEVER EVER vote for BNP.
The Politician Enoch Powell back in the 60s warned about the Immigration Issue for those of you who may remember. Fred Bassett speaks his mind and I for one applaud him for that, and I agree with many of his comments. All this political correctness known as (PC) has the country scared that if anyone speaks thier mind they are villified by the masses, but truth be told they all think the same.
Off topic I know
@Onport1968. you are a either an immigrant yourself or you dont give a crap about the future of this country, either way your the cock
For your information my daughter has just lost her job at the RD&E due to NHS Devon prefering to employ cheap labour via an Exeter agency who incidently employ none English speaking Eastern Europeans. The question here is how do they train them to hospital standards when they dont understand English. Would you want your families health put at risk in this way?
Can anybody spot any councillors in this picture? This is probably the truth behind why the wall is still in the road.
I too will never vote BNP, but will vote UKIP (again) at the next election.
The EU is failing (never having passed an audit!), The Euro is failing (because countries whose economies were deficient of the rules were allowed to join it) and because our Social Security system is being taken advantage of by people who have no intention of working and have never paid into it wanting to come to this country (why wouldn't they?).
This is not a racist argument it is purely that our system cannot withstand it.
Are there many people in Dawlish with the attention span less than Mr & Mrs Goldfish.
The wall is costing petrol and time and I don't care what views so and so has, that is their
right.
Your right, we need to know who to start sending the bills too. The buses are late and it took nearly 30-mins from Ladys Mile To Teignmouth station this morning.
Just a point to the people responsible do you know it is an offence to willingly obstruct Her Majesty's Highway. Perhaps if your affected we should get together and sue the owners at small claims court
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/04/23/chris-bryant-sparks-immigration-row_n_3137715.html?utm_hp_ref=ukht Thought this might interest you fred
Interesting did you notice the voting figures, almost 2-1 in favour of his comment. Suppose that equates to a whole lot of racist people who are obviously wrong and will be totally ignored yet again by Cameron and his spine less rich kid idiots.
Since the mobile toilet arrived at the wall it seems very little movement has
taken place on the structure
Or could it be the work force has got locked inside the bog and are unable to escape.
So please if there is a good samaritan out there just go and check the door.
Chaos at the Wall 7:45am today. The lights going out of Dawlish stuck on red and coming into
town no lights on at all.
Is anyone in charge?
Is anything going on?
Is this a joke?
Fred and b.o.licking you will like this http://www.dsfire.gov.uk/news/newsdesk/IncidentDetail.cfm?IncidentID=24491&siteCategoryId=3&T1ID=26&T2ID=35
If I had been the fireman asked to go up the ladder I would
have told the RSPCA jobsworth and the Chief fire officer to both impale themselves
on each end of the ladder. Job Done
With today being the last day for the Fire service to submit their objections to the proposed funding cuts. Lets hope incidents like this are no longer responded to.
It would make more sense to buy the RSPCA chap a nice Air Riffle and a box of pellets.
Incidently whats this got to do with the wall in the road
You're right about Dawlish being a no-go area. Had relatives from Cumbria staying over the weekend. It took them proportionately longer to get out of Dawlish than it took to get up the M5 & M6 to their home.
Official news just in - Contractors appointed should be cleared within the next ten days, but not for the bank holiday.
What I cannot understand is how an insurance company or individual can just
leave rubble on the road.Surely the highways dept could have cleared the debris
until the contractors moved in
Here's the official line. Untill the remaining structure is declared safe or made safe nobody is allowed to work on or around it for fear of futher collapse which may cause personal injury, and result in compensation claims.
Apparently the traffic control lights are a better option than someone getting crushed.
Depending on who that someone is, I beg to differ
Surely Fred there are things that deserve to be under that pile what about a list
a) The seagull that was saved now c--ps on my car.
b) The local cat population that c--ps on my lawn.
c) The bu--ers that feed the seagulls.
d) The bu--ers that feed each others cats.
Here's some more
Traffic Wardens
South West Water
A few local councillors
Teignbridge planning dept
The No 2 bus
Abacuss Taxis
After 4 bloody weeks Mr M Clayson knows all about it.
Have I been on the planet ZOD?
Where have you been?